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A Guarantee - Roy Jones Won’t Beat Joe Calzaghe

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  • #21
    hey Alderson stop crying...

    ok so i'm sure you picked Hopkins to beat pavlick easy. come on. styles make fights and jones even though slower still punches alot faster and stronger than hopkins. he doesn't have heavy hands never did. how commited was he against Johnson? the guy i mean almost beat the best light heavy champion so yes it would normal that when your skills diminish, that you are not the best in your weight class. below 175, no one could hurt jones and he just has to pop joe a few times like hopkins was able to do and he'll be fine. might not win the fight but he'll have his moments. will need an early KO to win. i think jones knows this is his last chance to shine. and maybe Joe might give him the opportunity to do so.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16 View Post
      I think Jones has a great chance of winning. If he can slow the fight down to where he is most comfortable at, and time Joe's wide looping punches with consistent hard counters, then he could neutralize Joe's work rate and Joe would be in trouble. If the fight is tactical, then Calzaghe is going to get owned and in a bad way. His should be getting on the inside and working, trying to break Roy down. In the 24/7 series he stated that he wants to box with Jones, lets just hope hes lying.
      Wow. You lose.

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      • #23
        Beginning an article on sport as to a guarantee to the result is pretty lame. Not only is there no guarantees especially in boxing as the writer must really know, the article is misleading in that it's him guaranteeing in his personal view, not the entire site or whomever else.

        Furthermore for whatever it is there's a big sporting event in a couple of weeks which a lot of people are excited about, why piss on that because of an overly negative attitude? It wouldn't be the first match up in the last year or so even, where odds where fairly stacked on one side. Thing is the odds aren't as heavily stacked in Joe's favour as many like to make out, so not only is it an exaggeration to summarise like this, it takes from the promotion, success and entertainment from the fight, which isn't a good thing.

        The way the article closes indicates just what kind of attitude had just been experienced in the article, when it says I will not watch a boxing match for 6 months if Roy wins. What the hell is all that about, why would it be a bad thing, it insinuates Roys undeserving, that's low man. Best man wins on the night. We thought you were guaranteeing the result anyway? I think that really underlines the overly cynical attitude to the whole fight which isn't as wide spread as made out.

        It's the first time Joe has fought someone with as fast hands, let alone faster. Roy has a better more orthodox defence now which suites against Joe's style. Roy's fairly used to south paws, and has the speed, timing and power still to put Joe on his arse like Nard did. He's also a better ring tactician than Calzaghe, whom prepares game plans like Hopkins does, which Joe doesn't. It's also in Roy's country, out of Joe's comfort zone.

        I still favour a Joe by UD but Roy has a good chance and a lot of recent polls and discussions agree. We've already exaggerated how past it Hopkins was to the point of saying he's shot and has no chance. I'm not saying Roy's not further down the line, but I see that same theme of blowing it out of proportion again.
        Last edited by Kris Silver; 10-27-2008, 06:57 AM.

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        • #24
          ok i think jones has a shot, and i'll be cheering him on but drop the dope man, Tito a greater fighter than joe? Come on. he lost against oscar but got the decision..., had to use low blows to beat Vargas, got destroyed against winky and bernard...

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          • #25
            As an admirer of Calzaghe, Jones Jr. and Hopkins but a fan of none I have to say that this article is probably fairly accurate.
            Of course there is a chance that Jones Jr. pulls out a great punch from his own history books but that is his only real option.
            It is actually belittling the Jones Jr. of old to compare him to the fighter today.

            It is also madness to look at Hopkins (superb) dominance of Pavlik and compare that to Jones versus Calzaghe. I like Pavlik but he was always going to be beaten by the skills and generalship of Hopkins. What is amazing is Hopkins' unusual aggression and attack but the outcome was not a surprise.

            I would love to see Jones do something special against Calzaghe but unless he has a time machine it ain't going to happen. Calzaghe would always have been a nightmare for Jones (not insurmountable though) stylistically. Now Calzaghe's pressure and workrate will deplete Jones far more reliably than it did the still superb Hopkins.

            I was never a fan of this fight. I would have to dislike Jones Jr. to want this fight. It will take a major lapse in focus from Calzaghe for RJJ to win this and one thing you cannot accuse Calzaghe of is letting fights go.

            Hulk would smash either puny human. Grararrarrrr!

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            • #26
              The Hopkins win over Pavlik was not a suprise to you, hulk. But Hopkins was a 3-1 underdog...

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              • #27
                Originally posted by TRUTH View Post
                The Hopkins win over Pavlik was not a suprise to you, hulk. But Hopkins was a 3-1 underdog...
                Nope. I posted in one or two threads that were trumping on about Pavlik and a KO.
                The factors that appealed to Hulk were;

                Pavlik is used to overpowering at smaller weight. He's moving up 2 weight classes.
                He hasn't really been seen against a boxer. He favored fights like Pantera, (obviously Taylor) and wanted Duddy. This is not a man who has faced a tactician. I suspect Eastman would have beaten him or at least made him look very ineffective.
                Whilst not 'chinny' he has been wobbled and knocked down by strong punchers.

                All this plays into Hopkins' hands.
                Hopkins has excelled at the higher weight. No bigger fighter has even wobbled him not least a smaller one.
                Hopkins still has pop as seen with the early knockdown of Calzaghe. It was mostly the close nature of that fight which made me think that Hopkins was still too much for Pavlik.
                The skill level and ring generalship disparity was huge.
                No advantage that Pavlik has over Hopkins (energy level and activity rate I thought before the fight) was that large.

                I was shocked at how aggressive Hopkins was. I also had no clue it would be that uneven so I'm not prescient.
                I always thought Hopkins would win but by slipping, sliding and potshotting away in the usual unexciting but undeniably dominant way.
                I was happily surprised.
                Hopefully we will see a better Pavlik as a result too.

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                • #28
                  What kind of garbage is this? A GUARANTEE??????

                  As unlikely as a Jones win might seem to some people, there is MOST DEFINITELY a possibility that Jones pulls through.

                  I hope Jones reads this ****, beats Calzaghe and calls out this Brent ******* when Merchant is conducting his post fight interview.

                  I hope BigPoppaPump pulls some strings and gets this guy fired.

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                  • #29
                    There's always a chance for any fighter, just Roy has a slim chance.

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                    • #30
                      Talk like this makes me think Joe will get KO'd. I agree wit him bein the favorite, but it's wrong to say Roy has no chance. I think he'll eke out a close decision.

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