talyors resume is already 10 times better than joes

[ragingvic]

First of all, you called Reid a bum. So if you think that Reid is a bum, and that Reid is equal to Miranda, then I guess Miranda is a bum too.

Robin Reid was a very good fighter, but he was inconsistent. He won an Olympic medal (could Miranda do the same? No. He's not good enough technically, and doesn't have the speed or timing).

How many times have you seen Robin Reid fight?

Reid went to Italy and won the WBC title. He went to Germany and won the WBA and IBF title in the eyes of everyone other than the officials. That fight in cited as one of the worst robberies of all time.

Reid holds a win over Julio Cesar Vasquez, who dominated and knocked down Winky several times. Granted, Winky was still green, but he had a 25-0 record and was a good fighter. IMO Vasquez is a better name for a 168 fighter to have on his record than that of Kassim Ouma. But maybe that's just because I've been watching boxing for more than 5 minutes.

In terms of achievements and opposition beaten, Reid>Miranda.

Also please dont say he went to Italy and won the title, who did he beat? a nobody. Same with the Germany "robbery".

[Clegg]

Look you can dig up all the fighters on Robin Reids resume, it does not change the fact that hes a bum and so is Miranda, but if your going to write off Miranda please dont mention Reid. That being said Miranda would probably send reid over the ropes.

Dig up? Is it digging up the names on a resume to mention them? What a strange thing to say.

I think Reid would KO Miranda without much trouble. Reid had an excellent chin before he got old. He also had a good defence and a fast, powerful right hand counter.

How many times have you seen him fight?

I've already shown that he has a better record than Miranda. Better achievements, faced better opposition, beat better opposition...but I've already shown this without you responding to it so...

[warp1432]

Taylor on the other hand beat Hopkins2 years before Calzaghe and done a hell of a job and beat his ass twice.

You know nothing about boxing. NOTHING.

[Flawless 2]

What do you base this on?


1
Yes.

Eubank, though past his best, was still a very good fighter, and Calzaghe beat him by a larger margin than Steve Collins or Carl Thompson, even though the latter was 2 divisions higher and fought him after the Calzaghe fight.

Which Eubank fights have you seen in their entirety?

Not long ago you claimed that Baldomir was a better fighter, then ended up changing your mind after the entire board told you how wrong you were.



So shall we take away Roy's win over Toney? Hopkins' win over Tarver? Tarver's win over Roy? Every fight where anyone makes a claim afterwards?

I watched countless Eubank fights against Benn. He didn't impressive me at all. Nothing special as you British love to hype up. Roy Jones right hand was hurt and smashed Hopkins with his left. RJJ embarrassed Toney, no excuses there he was young and he got beat.


Sorry, no one even rates Eubank at all. He wouldn't in his prime beat RJJ Hopkins. The Hopkins that Taylor fought would beat prime Eubank. Too smart of a boxer for Eubank

[ragingvic]

Dig up? Is it digging up the names on a resume to mention them? What a strange thing to say.

I think Reid would KO Miranda without much trouble. Reid had an excellent chin before he got old. He also had a good defence and a fast, powerful right hand counter.

How many times have you seen him fight?

I've already shown that he has a better record than Miranda. Better achievements, faced better opposition, beat better opposition...but I've already shown this without you responding to it so...

Even a blind squirrel find a nut sometimes, thats all Reid did.

[Clegg]

Also please dont say he went to Italy and won the title, who did he beat? a nobody. Same with the Germany "robbery".

Nardiello by KO. VN was coming off of a win over Sugar Boy Malinga.

In Germany it was Sven Ottke, who holds wins over Byron Mitchell, Glenn Johnson, Thomas Tate, Silvio Branco and Mundine.

Now, the fact is that both Reid and Miranda can be criticised, but Reid beat the better opposition. Also, the people that Reid beat (Nardiello and the Ottke robbery) had better records than Miranda does.

It's not really close to be honest.

[Dan...]

I watched countless Eubank fights against Benn. He didn't impressive me at all. Nothing special as you British love to hype up. Roy Jones right hand was hurt and smashed Hopkins with his left. RJJ embarrassed Toney, no excuses there he was young and he got beat.


Sorry, no one even rates Eubank at all. He wouldn't in his prime beat RJJ Hopkins. The Hopkins that Taylor fought would beat prime Eubank. Too smart of a boxer for Eubank

You're right. Anyone who couldn't take care of these cans is clearly a disgrace of a fighter.

You are the most ******ed poster in the history of all forums. We almost need a "Flawless and Flawless alt-free forum".

[warp1432]

I heard Ottke got gifts over Johnson and Mitchell as well.

[Flawless 2]

Nardiello by KO. VN was coming off of a win over Sugar Boy Malinga.

In Germany it was Sven Ottke, who holds wins over Byron Mitchell, Glenn Johnson, Thomas Tate, Silvio Branco and Mundine.

Now, the fact is that both Reid and Miranda can be criticised, but Reid beat the better opposition. Also, the people that Reid beat (Nardiello and the Ottke robbery) had better records than Miranda does.

It's not really close to be honest.

Miranda loses were to Pavlik and AA, the 2 ****ing best MW in the world.
Reid Ottke Lacy Froch

Are any of those guys good as the 2 best MW fighters

[Clegg]

I watched countless Eubank fights against Benn. He didn't impressive me at all.

Countless fights against Benn? He only had 2. You need to watch a boxer against more than one opponent in order to judge him.

Nothing special as you British love to hype up.

You haven't been watching boxing for long, so how would you know his level of hype? Do you base it upon the fact that he was ignored by America, or something else?

Roy Jones right hand was hurt and smashed Hopkins with his left.

Yeah, Hopkins was smashed up pretty badly in that fight.

RJJ embarrassed Toney, no excuses there he was young and he got beat.

Clearly there are excuses. Whether or not they are more or less valid than those given for Kessler is a matter of opinion.

Sorry, no one even rates Eubank at all.

Sure they do. They certainly rate him higher than Baldomir, don't they?

He wouldn't in his prime beat RJJ Hopkins. The Hopkins that Taylor fought would beat prime Eubank. Too smart of a boxer for Eubank

This is an opinion.

In the months you've posted here, I've tried to teach you countless times that you cannot prove one opinion with another.

Saying "Boxer A was not good because he probably would've lost to boxer B" is not evidence of your claim, because it's a claim in itself.

Yes?