talyors resume is already 10 times better than joes

[Flawless 2]

Countless fights against Benn? He only had 2. You need to watch a boxer against more than one opponent in order to judge him.



You haven't been watching boxing for long, so how would you know his level of hype? Do you base it upon the fact that he was ignored by America, or something else?



Yeah, Hopkins was smashed up pretty badly in that fight.



Clearly there are excuses. Whether or not they are more or less valid than those given for Kessler is a matter of opinion.



Sure they do. They certainly rate him higher than Baldomir, don't they?



This is an opinion.

In the months you've posted here, I've tried to teach you countless times that you cannot prove one opinion with another.

Saying "Boxer A was not good because he probably would've lost to boxer B" is not evidence of your claim, because it's a claim in itself.

Yes?

All you did is stated pointless opinions.
Name me a fighter that Calzaghe faced that is good as Winky or Hopkins or Pavlik.

[ragingvic]

Nardiello by KO. VN was coming off of a win over Sugar Boy Malinga.

In Germany it was Sven Ottke, who holds wins over Byron Mitchell, Glenn Johnson, Thomas Tate, Silvio Branco and Mundine.

Now, the fact is that both Reid and Miranda can be criticised, but Reid beat the better opposition. Also, the people that Reid beat (Nardiello and the Ottke robbery) had better records than Miranda does.

It's not really close to be honest.

VN had also been kod in the 6th two fights earlier by Wharton. And from what i know eveyone from Johnson to Reid was "robbed" against Ottke, so its kind of hard to get anything from those fights.

[larryx]

All you did is stated pointless opinions.
Name me a fighter that Calzaghe faced that is good as Winky or Hopkins or Pavlik.

they can't its impossible

[Flawless 2]

they can't its impossible

LOL Nah

Watch these guys lie deny and distort information. They are pretty good at it. They will name a country a fighter and a title and think that is enough

[Miburo]

Taylor by far. Taylor will fight everyone and ducks no one, win or lose. I have more respect for Taylor's resume than any other active fighter.

[warp1432]

Name me a fighter that Calzaghe faced that is good as Winky or Hopkins or Pavlik.

There you go

[Clegg]

All you did is stated pointless opinions.

No, I pointed out the flaws in your claims.

Name me a fighter that Calzaghe faced that is good as Winky or Hopkins or Pavlik.

Well Taylor didn't beat Pavlik or Wright, so...

I mean, if Pacquiao stepped up to heavyweight and got destroyed by Wlad, would that make him better than any other flyweight who lived? No. Even though no other flyweight has ever faced an opponent as tough as Wlad, it doesn't make you a better fighter if you face the best and get KO'd.

Taylor was certainly competitive against Pavlik, but I'm not sure how much that should be valued.

Taylor has wins over Hopkins, as does Calzaghe. I consider it a matter of debate which win is worth more, but I think that fighters like Eubank, Kessler, Lacy, Mitchell, Reid and Woodhall are superior to Spinks and Ouma, (who were not legit 160lb guys IMO) Joppy, Marquez and the draw with Wright.

Taylor is still young, and he's a talented fighter. Perhaps his resume will end up better than Calzaghe's, but at the moment I don't think that it is.

[warp1432]

Taylor by far. Taylor will fight everyone and ducks no one, win or lose.

Which is why he fought Spinks insted of Miranda Were you active when everyone hated Taylor? He was hated on worse then Calzaghe

[Flawless 2]

No, I pointed out the flaws in your claims.



Well Taylor didn't beat Pavlik or Wright, so...

I mean, if Pacquiao stepped up to heavyweight and got destroyed by Wlad, would that make him better than any other flyweight who lived? No. Even though no other flyweight has ever faced an opponent as tough as Wlad, it doesn't make you a better fighter if you face the best and get KO'd.

Taylor was certainly competitive against Pavlik, but I'm not sure how much that should be valued.

Taylor has wins over Hopkins, as does Calzaghe. I consider it a matter of debate which win is worth more, but I think that fighters like Eubank, Kessler, Lacy, Mitchell, Reid and Woodhall are superior to Spinks and Ouma, (who were not legit 160lb guys IMO) Joppy, Marquez and the draw with Wright.

Taylor is still young, and he's a talented fighter. Perhaps his resume will end up better than Calzaghe's, but at the moment I don't think that it is.

The thread starter said competition faced not won

[Clegg]

VN had also been kod in the 6th two fights earlier by Wharton.

True, but Reid beat Wharton as well.

And from what i know eveyone from Johnson to Reid was "robbed" against Ottke, so its kind of hard to get anything from those fights.

Fair point, I haven't seen most of Ottke's fights, but do you really think Miranda has beaten the same level of opposition and achieved as much Robin Reid?