RING Magazine: "Mayweather Doesn't Crack the Top 25 Greatest Ever"

[Money May MOFO]

ha, good job son. keep it up.

thanks Melly-Mel i knew you would be happy for me

[Slotff]

the fact reamins ww is floyd's 4th weight class name one guy in the top 25 that cleaned out their 4th weight class

You are wrong if you beleive that Mayweather cleaned out WW. He beat Mitchell and Judah (solid wins, but Mitchell was totally shot). His only good WW win is Baldomir who was the champ. That he gets credit for. His best career win, DLH, is at 154. Hatton was a JW with no buisness at WW.

[Brandish]

Duran and Leonard beat ATGs who were in/close to their primes.

did duran clean out `147, 154, or 160 the answer is no, so why try and hold floyd told a different standard. we all know duran wasn't talented enough to clean out any division besides 135

And Floyd didn't clean out 135 or 140 either, so I'm not sure why you're only talking about his failure to clean out 147.

once again did duran clean out 140 or 147 what about leonard did he clean out 154 or even 160

Hopkins cleaned out 160. Calzaghe cleaned out 168. Roy Jones cleaned out 175. Mayweather did not clean out any division as effectively as that before moving up to as new one.

if you mean by cleaning out a division you have to fight the morad hakkar's and reggie hall's of the world. and please don't mention calslappy in the same breath as floyd

[Brandish]

You are wrong if you beleive that Mayweather cleaned out WW. He beat Mitchell and Judah (solid wins, but Mitchell was totally shot). His only good WW win is Baldomir who was the champ. That he gets credit for. His best career win, DLH, is at 154. Hatton was a JW with no buisness at WW.

based on your analysis floyd would have to beat every welterweight in the top ten to clean it out. totally absurd considering no fighter in the top 25 has ever fought everyone in their 4th weight class. you are better off fighting the top guy in the division then fighting a bunch of bums and contenders

[Bea5T]

as far as superfeather goes floyd is the goat

kind of a shame theres no money in the lower divisions

I think hes top 20 ever

not past 15 tho

[Chups]

What to expect of a Publication owned by the Golden Boy himself, Oscar De La Hoya?
I beg to differ, i think Mayweather easly makes top 10 all time and skill wise he is definitely top 5 in my book with Robbinson, Jones and a few others too close to call.

STFU! Oscar has nothing to do with the editor's opinion. The ring team are the most honorable people in boxing.

[Clegg]

did duran clean out `147, 154, or 160 the answer is no, so why try and hold floyd told a different standard. we all know duran wasn't talented enough to clean out any division besides 135

I'm not sure how to respond, so I'll copy and paste what you were replying to:

Duran and Leonard beat ATGs who were in/close to their primes.

You see? What I did was mention that...well, you can see what I mentioned. I mean, it's right there...

Did Floyd beat ATG's who were in their prime? No. Did Leonard? Yes. Did Duran? Yes.

You see? I'm guessing that you don't, but nevermind.

once again did duran clean out 140 or 147 what about leonard did he clean out 154 or even 160

You claimed that Mayweather cleaned out 135 and 140. He didn't. So you made a claim, I pointed out that it was BS. That's all.

I've already tried to explain that, although they didn't clean out every division, did they beat ATGs, so that means they rank higher than if they had not.

Do agree? I mean, you surely accept that a win over a prime, ATG adds to your legacy...right?

if you mean by cleaning out a division you have to fight the morad hakkar's and reggie hall's of the world. and please don't mention calslappy in the same breath as floyd

Unifying the belts would be a good start, facing the top challenger, something along those lines. Hopkins, Calzaghe and Jones all did those things, but Floyd did not.

[Clegg]

as far as superfeather goes floyd is the goat

Based upon what? Ability? Opposition faced? Titles held? Title defenses?

[steptwome]

Ehh, got say I agree with The Ring on this one. He had a chance. ****, Mayweather STILL does. It's there for him to break into the the top 15, if he came back. If he stays retired, then I can see what they are saying.

NEWS FLASH......DE LA HOYA OWNS Ring Magazine.....and for anyone to say that his influence does not have an impact is just crazy. Ring Magazine WAS the "Boxing Bible" according to many. Most recently it has been refererred to as a "Boxing Manuscript"

[Bea5T]

Based upon what? Ability? Opposition faced? Titles held? Title defenses?

titles defended

total domination

speed

defense

ring smarts

accuracy