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  • Duke McKenzie_
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    #91
    Originally posted by daggum
    pretty much just like calzaghe but better. 2 of calzaghes best wins(before he fought kessler and hopkins) were woodhall and brewer. keith holmes ko'd woodhall before he fought calzaghe and echols ko'd brewer before calzaghe fought him. hopkins went on to beat them both. echols also beat kabary salem who calzaghe struggled with but i dont even count that dude. looks like the mediocre guys hopkins fought crushed calzaghes mediocre guys in head up competition.
    You'll note I never suggested that Joe's comp WASN'T mediocre.

    A prime Reid was probably Joe's best opponent.. maybe an old Bank. Not stellar...

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      #92
      Originally posted by daggum
      pretty much just like calzaghe but better. 2 of calzaghes best wins(before he fought kessler and hopkins) were woodhall and brewer. keith holmes ko'd woodhall before he fought calzaghe and echols ko'd brewer before calzaghe fought him. hopkins went on to beat them both. echols also beat kabary salem who calzaghe struggled with but i dont even count that dude. looks like the mediocre guys hopkins fought crushed calzaghes mediocre guys in head up competition.
      Daggum - a student of the game, I like that!

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        #93
        ... oh, triangular logic is meaningless, of course...

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        • Duke McKenzie_
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          #94
          Originally posted by IMDAZED
          Daggum - a student of the game, I like that!
          It's funny that when someone shares your opinion they're a "student of the game"... when they disagree they don't know boxing.

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            #95
            Originally posted by Duke McKenzie_
            I am, kid... I give it to these posters RIGHT DOWN THE PIPE!
            **** i am star struck
            Love your commentary duke !
            they could do with you over at Sentanta !

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              #96
              Originally posted by Duke McKenzie_
              It's funny that when someone shares your opinion they're a "student of the game"... when they disagree they don't know boxing.
              Nah, what's funny is how everything he said is factual and is in line with everything I said.

              I gotta chuckle at that .

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              • garryd
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                #97
                Duke i am a uk/gypsy travler ,what do you know about that lad Sunders that fighting at ww in the Olympics??

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by IMDAZED
                  Nah, what's funny is how everything he said is factual and is in line with everything I said.

                  I gotta chuckle at that .
                  Duke makes a good point. Your never wrong even when your purely talking from opinion. Your difficult to converse with, un compromising and argumentative. When you don't agree with someone you do make out there complete idiots just for not sharing the same opinion as you. When you do agree with someone, your tone is still patronising like you some kind of leader in the correct knowledge and opinions to have.

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                  • BennyST
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by IMDAZED
                    LOL @ a lower tier Hall of Famer. Care to name some examples like Eubank?
                    There are a number that would be similar to a Chris Eubank. What about Terry Norris? He had a few good wins, but, he was also knocked out cold during his prime quite a few times also by only decent fighters. Jackson is understandable, but then McCallum handled Jackson rather easily as did McClellan. Didn't he also get knocked out by Brown? So, really, what great fighters did he beat and what did he do worthy of being in the HOF?

                    What about Bobby Chacon? He was a good fighter but much like Gatti in that he was beaten by most good fighters of his time and was just an exciting brawler who could take a hell of a lot of punishment! Was he worthy of the HOF? He was beaten by all the great fighters he faced in Arguello, Olivares, Boza Edwards etc.

                    What about Pipino Cuevas? Another good fighter but also never really beat anyone of note and was destroyed by Duran and Hearns.

                    What about Carlos Palomino? He had some good wins but were they as good as beating Michael Watson and Nigel Benn among others? You tell me.

                    What about Dwight Qawi? A few good wins but as many bad losses and I can think of many better fighters with better careers that could have gotten in.

                    Talking about Qawi and the HOF, what about his biggest win in Saad Muhamed (I don't know if that's spelt right). He is also in the HOF. Do you think he is deserving? Can you think of any fighters that are better? Was he that much better than Eubank and did he have that many better wins than Eubank? I would like to hear how his wins are so much better than Eubanks and why that would get him in.

                    Even the guys you mentioned have struggled to gain true credibility as fighters and some still do to this day from anywhere apart from their own countries. Pacquiao is huge because of his exciting style. Galaxy was never known outside his country. He is a terrible example and only boxers know of him. Lewis was known because he was a heavyweight in the 'Tyson' era. Fenech and Tszyu are arguably he best fighters Australia has ever had. Two! Wow! So unbiased! Even now you get people who don't recognise either Tszyu or Fenech as good fighters. Guess what? They're generally American.

                    It's obvious that there is always going to be home country favourites and that as the boxing mecca and where all the big fights are generated, of course the Americans are going to be seen as better and more favoured. If Locche was American, not only would he be hideously famous like Pep and Whitaker but everyone on this board would know who he is. The fact is though that hardly anyone does!

                    Edit: after re-reading my post, I realised that I had put a Mexican fighter in. Ignore the Cuevas bit.
                    Last edited by BennyST; 08-02-2008, 02:22 PM.

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                    • Duke McKenzie_
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by garryd
                      **** i am star struck
                      Love your commentary duke !
                      they could do with you over at Sentanta !
                      Kid, when I asked Setanta why they employed John Rawlings and not me, they told me it's because I'm so good they wanted to give all the other commentators a chance.

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