Better Legacy Hopkins or Calzaghe lets settle it for good

[j.razor]

[QUOTE=letsgobrady;3784870]

1. Tito couldnt land any clean punches 2 Jones up stairs
2. Winky wuz already @ 170, (fat not muscle)
3. Jermain & joke-cal-slappy did not beat Hopkins-if joe didn't win why is he still undefeated?

b-cuz no-1 likes B-Hop...but 2 be a champ u must beat the champ & joke-cla-slappy didnt do that...

[letsgobrady]

While it's close to some and Joe does have a victory head to head.

When comparing legacies, you also compare overall skill and ability. And Hopkins by far is the more skilled fighter.

It's like comparing Delahoya and Whitaker. Oscar has a win and and pretty good accomplishments but you compare them skill4skill and we all know that Pernell is going down as a better fighter legacy wise.

what does bernard do? he barely fights.where is all this skill?he's a smart fighter but joe seems to be more skilled than bernard.

if legacy's were about who we think has the better skills and ability that would make floyd the greatest of all time

[Vladimir303]

so why does trinidad look fat in his fights at 160 and above? he doesn't look anything like he looks at 147,hatton fights at 140 but they say he goes up to about 180 when he doesn't fight so does this mean that hatton is as big as bernard? who the **** is joppy?

1. Joppy has been a top 10 middlweight fighter for a long time claiming and reclaiming a middlweight belt.

2. Trinidad was not fat when he fought Hopkins and he is fat now because of age and inactivity.

3. Comparing a 5'6 no power having Hatton to a 5'10 Trinidad who was knocking out guys at 154 is stretching it yet again to try and make a point. I'll ask you again, would you take away credit from Diaz had he beaten Manny Pacquiao when he was moving up to lightweight??? Would you take away credit from Baldomir had he defended his belt sucessfully against a former super-featherweight in Mayweater?

Trinindad was 40+ and 0 and a big favorite against Hopkins. That was the fight that showed everybody that Hopkins is not just a very good middlweight but a great middlweight.

[Mozza]

Calzaghe has won every big fight he has been in whereas Hopkins hasn't. It's close.

[C.Y.]

Calzaghe has won every big fight he has been in whereas Hopkins hasn't. It's close.

Bernard has faced and beaten better opposition.. Calzaghe has not had a dominant performance over anyone elite

[fightingfigs]

This shouldnt be debated. Of course B-Hop has the better career. hands down

[Vladimir303]

what does bernard do? he barely fights.where is all this skill?he's a smart fighter but joe seems to be more skilled than bernard.

if legacy's were about who we think has the better skills and ability that would make floyd the greatest of all time

1. If you were watching boxing for more then 3 years you wouldn't ask me what Bernard does. Dissing Hopkins and then saying this ****sexual punher is more skilled is absurd. He wins by workrate and being awkward.....nothing else to it.

2. Calzaghe fights like a ***** fighting his way out of spider webs. No rhytm and no coordination.

3. RJJ is probably the most gifted fighter of all times not Floyd. That was not the point. We were comparing two guys who have a similar resume based on title defenses at their weight and moving up and winning Ring Light-heavy titles. The difference is in overall skill and how many great fighters they have on their resume. Hopkins by far has more great names on his resume whether they were small or not. The only "great" fighter on Joe's record to date is Hopkins.

[letsgobrady]

[QUOTE=j.razor;3785088]

b-cuz no-1 likes B-Hop...but 2 be a champ u must beat the champ & joke-cla-slappy didnt do that...

joe had bernard crying to the ref and he had bernard so tired that bernard had to fake getting hit low to get some rest.
bernard lands 2 clean punches and he wins the fight?the first 1 was more of joe avoiding hopkins head thats why he got caught with the right

[Sir_Joe]

Read my old posts if you want to see serious posts of mine, I've given up lately. I can't be ****ed to argue with idiots who ignore common sense so I respond in the same way myself.

[IMDAZED]

[QUOTE=letsgobrady;3785119]

joe had bernard crying to the ref and he had bernard so tired that bernard had to fake getting hit low to get some rest.
bernard lands 2 clean punches and he wins the fight?the first 1 was more of joe avoiding hopkins head thats why he got caught with the right

A 43yr old Hopkins...43.