Roy Jones Talks Calzaghe, Jermain Taylor vs. Carl Froch?

[Chase8400]

I have to chuckle at the dedication afforded to the Taylor v Hopkins fight and more importantly, Taylor himself. When in reality, his fight with Froch is his last in the upper tier of the sport.

Froch holds every single advantage over Taylor. Having medalled at the World amateur finals, extensive amateur career, height, power, awkward style, power, chin, chin, power and chin... did i mention power ?

Jermain, as game as he is has pushed around by Ouma, Spinks, and Winky Wright - the majority of them could fight at Welter if they wanted to.

There is a very real reason as to why Calzaghe didn't make the fight with Froch over the last 4 years, preferring Evans Ashira and Mario Veit (again) when all he had to do was accept Froch's mantle.

I expect a great fight from Taylor, but by the halfway point it will unravel for him as Froch walks through his best shots and takes him out either with a body assault or uppercut.

Froch has a robotic style and gets hit easily. I gaurantee Taylor puts out his lights. Power is probably the only advantage he holds over Jermaine. Who has Froch fought? Right, absolutely nobody.

[Chase8400]

Anybody who thinks Hatton won five of the first seven against Mayweather, and then says Taylor shoulda won because he threw more and landed less well...well, I fear for the sport and your children who'll grow up thinking boxing is about who can get the most blocked/missed punches in.

Wow, now you bring family into this. Okay, I guess I fear for the sport and your children who'll grow up thinking boxing is about thug lowlife prison losers who cheat their way to a title and defend it like a dirty POS while using race, peoples nationality and language as a tool to entice them to fight him differently because he would have no other advantages. Is that what you will tell your offspring boxing should be about?

In my biased eyes Hatton won the first 5 out of (8) rounds. I said seven the second time by accident. Just as you think Hopkins had won the Taylor fights , favortism has clouded your judgement, as mine did. I however can admitt that. You are the one who is in denial. God bless, and good luck pushing your ideas off on someone who knows slightly less about boxing than yourself. That would not be ME in this case.

[Chase8400]

What do you think of Kelly Pavlik?

If nothing else, Pavlik has proven himself. IMO, Froch would be right about on Gary Lockett's level or barely higher. He has fought absolutely nobody to be able to compare him to Kelly Pavlik. Pavlik beat the man wo beat the man, and despite what you may think : PAVLIK IS THE REAL DEAL. It's okay, time will enlighten you. Mark my words. Froch is not tough enough to hold together if Pavlik used him to wipe his ass in place of tissue paper.

[Johnny Rebel]

If nothing else, Pavlik has proven himself. IMO, Froch would be right about on Gary Lockett's level or barely higher. He has fought absolutely nobody to be able to compare him to Kelly Pavlik. Pavlik beat the man wo beat the man, and despite what you may think : PAVLIK IS THE REAL DEAL. It's okay, time will enlighten you. Mark my words. Froch is not tough enough to hold together if Pavlik used him to wipe his ass in place of tissue paper.

Froch is a hell of a lot better than Lockett ever was. If Carl beats Taylor I wonder if you yanks will put him on a pedestal live Pavlik is. Before Kelly fought Miranda and Taylor he was also considered an "overrated, overachiever, slow, blue-collar" type fighter. Now Pavlik is Ray Robinson...

[duffgun]

I see Taylor beating Froch but i don't think it will be one sided. The Jones Calzaghe fight is a tough one to call.

[RagingBull22]

Taylor would beat the **** outta Froch and win a UD

[abadger]

If nothing else, Pavlik has proven himself. IMO, Froch would be right about on Gary Lockett's level or barely higher. He has fought absolutely nobody to be able to compare him to Kelly Pavlik. Pavlik beat the man wo beat the man, and despite what you may think : PAVLIK IS THE REAL DEAL. It's okay, time will enlighten you. Mark my words. Froch is not tough enough to hold together if Pavlik used him to wipe his ass in place of tissue paper.

Froch is much better than Lockett, but you are right when you say he hasn't fought anybody, whereas Pavlik has. When assessing Froch nearly everybody, both his fans and his critics are largely going off what they want to believe. His fans assume that he doesn't have any as yet unexposed weaknesses, whereas his critics assume he is riddled with them. The truth is that no-one really knows.

I personally see many similarities between Froch and Pavlik, both quite slow, not the world's most gifted boxers, but with plenty of pop. Unless Froch turns out to have a glass jaw, or big stamina issues, or even just an inability to cope with higher level fighters then I think there is a very good argument for his fans to say he might beat Taylor exactly the same way as Pavlik did both times, by sapping his energy and will with concussive power. Likewise his critics are right when they say he has never shown an ability to do this against good opposition.

I don't rate Taylor that highly personally, so I wouldn't be amazed if Froch beat him, but as to predicting that he will, I have to reserve my judgement on that one until the fight actually happens.

[abadger]

Froch is a hell of a lot better than Lockett ever was. If Carl beats Taylor I wonder if you yanks will put him on a pedestal live Pavlik is. Before Kelly fought Miranda and Taylor he was also considered an "overrated, overachiever, slow, blue-collar" type fighter. Now Pavlik is Ray Robinson...

I agree with what you say here. IMO Americans are making a rod for their own backs by elevating a guy whose best wins are Miranda and Taylor to such high P4P status. Abraham already beat Miranda, so what if he beat Taylor or Pavlik himself? Where would he be P4P then? Same goes for guys like Kessler and Froch. If Froch did beat Taylor does he automatically become a top ten P4Per? I doubt thats the way it will be to be honest.

[black.ink]

I like how everybody is writing Froch off. I've followed him from his pro start and although he hasn't faced anybody of quality, he possesses a lot more skill then people tend to think. He has a good amateur background, bringing a more technical skilled fighter which he hasn't shown much of against the weak opponents. The quality of opponents he's faced could be down to him being an avoided fighter but there's no fact to that.

Abadger is the only one making sense about Froch, let's judge him when he does fight a top tier opponent. Writing him off with not seeing what he's capable of isn't the way.

He stands a chance against Taylor, and i for one will not be suprised if he pulls off a win. This will spell an end to Taylors career.

[Baby Monkey]

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Some good ko's on this video off the tube.