Floyd Has A Great Point

[Antwuan Maxx]

In 2006 Floyd couldn't sell 10,000 tickets fighting in a city he's lived for over a decade. It's not a coincidence he does big numbers with the help of the two biggest draws in the sport and 4 part reality series. Who wouldn't? If Floyd was such a draw, he wouldn't have to worry about his opponents drawing power. Tyson, De La Hoya, Hatton, etc. do/did big numbers fighting cadavers. Can he? No, I seriously doubt it, and I think he does deep down inside too. Which is why he's planning on piggybacking De La Hoya and Hatton, milking as much $ as possible in the process.

If he's a true attraction, that means he can demand the bigger piece of the purse for fights with Cotto and Margarito. Also, if it he truly despises Bob Arum like he claims, what better way to get back at Arum then to ruin one of his cash cows than putting a big fat L on their record?

[Ray*]

You wont find one, I even in this thread stated I want to see the fight, so its not like anyone is taking up for Floyd, but I understand his point. Its not different than two and a half years ago when Ricky priced himself out of a fight with Floyd when he asked for 13 million, because he knew it was an event, a once in a lifetime thing, same thing Floyd does at this point in his career, he is taking on huge events, so that means fighting Cotto when it is at its peak, the biggest event possible. Only logical and sensible people understand this.

Thats my whole point, you have to understand how boxing works sometimes.
I for example would love to see Joe calzaghe fight Carl froch but i would understand if he choose to fight Roy jones junior instead, Does that mean i agree with Joe and supports his action NO WAY.

[deevel79]

In 2006 Floyd couldn't sell 10,000 tickets fighting in a city he's lived for over a decade. It's not a coincidence he does big numbers with the help of the two biggest draws in the sport and 4 part reality series. Who wouldn't? If Floyd was such a draw, he wouldn't have to worry about his opponents drawing power. Tyson, De La Hoya, Hatton, etc. do/did big numbers fighting cadavers. Can he? No, I seriously doubt it, and I think he does deep down inside too. Which is why he's planning on piggybacking De La Hoya and Hatton, milking as much $ as possible in the process.

If he's a true attraction, that means he can demand the bigger piece of the purse for fights with Cotto and Margarito. Also, if it he truly despises Bob Arum like he claims, what better way to get back at Arum then to ruin one of his cash cows than putting a big fat L on their record?

Damn you for making sense! LOL.

[Bhopreign]

No Cotto Fan cant find a post where a Floyd Fans Say that Floyd Should not Fight Cotto...Boxing Fans are giving HISTORY AND REASON into why the fight hasnt happen...

The Stipulations Game From Floyd to Cotto..

Some of the same arguments used against Cotto vs. Floyd
were being used against Floyd vs. Oscar

Some Floyd Fans are just using the same standard and credible stipulations Place on Floyd...to fight Oscar....

On Cotto vs. Floyd ..

That's just how it goes...

Us Floyd fans had to wait 6 years for Floyd to Fight Oscar...
So how you think we felt about that....

But we didnt ***** and complain as bad as you cotto fans are doing...
We just set back as we watch Our fighter stack up victories and boost his market appeal and boxing prestige so he could get a fight with Oscar...

We Waited 6 years for the fight to happen....
and when it happen we were vindicated....and we rubbed it in Oscar Fans Faces....

Soo.....now you Cotto fans know how it feels to be fan of a fighter when credible stipulations and standards are put on your fighter as to why he might not fight another fighter THAT YOU WANT HIM TO FIGHT

....EVEN AFTER you think YOUR FIGHTER HAS PROVEN THAT HE SHOULD FIGHT THE OTHER FIGHTER....

and it makes you mad when those arguments are credible why the fight might not happen or why it isnt happening...


Welcome to THE CLUB...!!!


Look at HBO making the argument that Floyd isnt a big enough star to fight Oscar..!!!

3:20-on









WHAT I DONT GET IS WHY DIDNT THEY PUSH THE
FLOYD VS. OSCAR FIGHT

LIKE THEY ARE TRYING TO PUSH THE
COTTO VS FLOYD FIGHT.....


WHAT KIND OF DOUBLE STANDARD IS THAT......!!!!!

@ Larry Merchant and STEWARD

IRONY

So basically it is ok for Oscar to make Floyd meet all his stipulations and standards... which amounted in Floyd waiting for 6 years....For Oscar to fight Floyd

and it is ok that SRL made Hagler Wait until he meet all his stipulations and standards... which amounted in Hagler waiting for 7 years For the SRL vs. Hagler fight to happen

But it is not ok for Floyd to make Cotto meet all his stipulations and standards... before the Floyd vs. Cotto fight can happen..!!

Double Standard once again....


But here is the common factor in any those situations,
1. the fight eventually happen
2. When the fight happen it was the biggest thing in Boxing....!!!


So why Cant Floyd follow a successful Format...!!
if it works....????

I not saying Have cotto wait 7 years...or 6 years in Floyd case....

But why not let Cotto wait, and let the fight Build up to what it should be...!!!


Obviously this format works...!!!

My own thread I created, Im admitting it should be closed with this statement, right on point. How can any hater argue against this.

[abadger]

This is why I hate posting on any forum, Ive said in this thread more than once and any thread that I post on the argument, that I want to see the fight, but people like you expect people only to read your statement and not backtrack and look what I wrote, dont put words in my mouth.

Well, I like Floyd, and I even believe that as P4P No. 1 he has earned the right to pick and choose his defences a little, it's not as though every other boxer on earth doesn't do it. However, your post did basically say that he is justified in not fighting opposition based on money and PPV numbers, which is not true. Tell me Cotto hasn't earned his shot based on who he's beat and I'll agree with you, IF Mayweather really feels he has to be that selective.

Bottom line though is that Mayweather IS a boxer and this "he's not worthy of me" stuff is becoming ridiculous. Floyd is the champ, but it doesn't mean everyone else isn't fit to lace his boots. If Floyd holds that opinion, then at some point or another he does have to prove it, he's done a good job of doing so up till now, but that can't last forever.

[Bhopreign]

Well, I like Floyd, and I even believe that as P4P No. 1 he has earned the right to pick and choose his defences a little, it's not as though every other boxer on earth doesn't do it. However, your post did basically say that he is justified in not fighting opposition based on money and PPV numbers, which is not true. Tell me Cotto hasn't earned his shot based on who he's beat and I'll agree with you, IF Mayweather really feels he has to be that selective.

Bottom line though is that Mayweather IS a boxer and this "he's not worthy of me" stuff is becoming ridiculous. Floyd is the champ, but it doesn't mean everyone else isn't fit to lace his boots. If Floyd holds that opinion, then at some point or another he does have to prove it, he's done a good job of doing so up till now, but that can't last forever.

Just because isnt fighting him tomorrow what makes you think he wont ever fight him, thats the thing with fans you want what you want when you want it, but its not up to any of us. Explain if you can why Oscar made Floyd wait six-seven years, why Leonard made Hagler wait seven years, but Floyd cant make Cotto wait a year and people get mad? Please.

[BMWM3P]

My own thread I created, Im admitting it should be closed with this statement, right on point. How can any hater argue against this.

We can't because you're the only one dumb enough to actually read it.

In 2006 Floyd couldn't sell 10,000 tickets fighting in a city he's lived for over a decade. It's not a coincidence he does big numbers with the help of the two biggest draws in the sport and 4 part reality series. Who wouldn't? If Floyd was such a draw, he wouldn't have to worry about his opponents drawing power. Tyson, De La Hoya, Hatton, etc. do/did big numbers fighting cadavers. Can he? No, I seriously doubt it, and I think he does deep down inside too. Which is why he's planning on piggybacking De La Hoya and Hatton, milking as much $ as possible in the process.

If he's a true attraction, that means he can demand the bigger piece of the purse for fights with Cotto and Margarito. Also, if it he truly despises Bob Arum like he claims, what better way to get back at Arum then to ruin one of his cash cows than putting a big fat L on their record?

Now this sums all up, this is truly the post that really closes this thread.

[Konstantin]

My own thread I created, Im admitting it should be closed with this statement, right on point. How can any hater argue against this.

I think peoples problem is the fact that you are defending him instead of saying what he did is wrong. How many posts do you and Horus have between the the two of you saying what he did was wrong? How bout how many posts do you have justifying what he did?

[Ray*]

Let me make sure i understand the question. Are u saying that there are certain fanboys here who HAVEN'T said that "Floyd shouldnt fight Cotto until Cotto becomes a mainstream star/Major PPV draw?"

By implying that Floyd should wait till Cotto becomes a mainstream star, they are saying that Cotto isnt a ppv draw, and therefore brings nothing to the table for Floyd.

If you are saying that not 1 poster here hasnt said that, then all u have to do is look up posts from Horus, Burner, Moin126, Money May, and the rest of the "lifestyle flashy/Coalition fanboys. There u will find the answer to your question.

Yes thats what am asking for, NOT them posting why/what Cotto needs to do to secure a fight with Mayweather BUT a post of anyone saying they dont want to see Floyd fight Cotto.

[abadger]

Just because isnt fighting him tomorrow what makes you think he wont ever fight him, thats the thing with fans you want what you want when you want it, but its not up to any of us. Explain if you can why Oscar made Floyd wait six-seven years, why Leonard made Hagler wait seven years, but Floyd cant make Cotto wait a year and people get mad? Please.

Floyd is entitled to make people wait. It just annoys everyone when he says stuff like "if a person is at a crap game and has a million dollars, why sit and gamble with someone with $200". Stuff like that is just arrogant bull**** and thats why Floyd gets so much hate. If he simply said "Cotto hasn't earned the shot", I'm sure people would still say he was ducking, but they wouldn't hate him as much.

The reason you're post attracted so much **** is because you basically defended Floyd's statement. Like I said, say that Cotto hasn't proved himself as a truly credible challenger to Floyd and I'd agree with you 100%.

Being a Floyd fan doesn't mean that you should defend even his most idiotic statements, remember, Floyd is a boxer and that should make you a boxing fan too.