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  • Ray*
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    #21
    Originally posted by deevel79
    How can u call yourself a fan of the sport, when all u do is make excuses for which why Floyd SHOULDNT fight Cotto until Cotto becomes a mainstream star? How does that benefit u as a fan? As i've stated several times before, fighters have advisors, lawyers, managers, and promoters to worry about all of thier financial and career moves. Will it make the fight any better for us if Floyd was to make $20mil instead of $12mil? If us fans who purchase the ppv were in line to recieve a percentage of the ppv revenue, then i would understand your stance, but we're not. So stfu about money already.

    Please show me a post where any fan on here actually posted that floyd shouldnt fight Cotto...just one, Dont show me a post where a fan states the reason why Floyd isnt fighting Cotto..Show me just one post where any fan on here says Floyd shouldnt fight Cotto due to Cotto not been a mainstream star.


    Please dont dance around the question

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    • Bhopreign
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      #22
      Originally posted by ~Lucky13~
      All you did is duck my question.
      What was your question? I believe people can have an honest debate or back and forth on here. So we can do that, if I find your argument right I will even say so unlike alot of people.

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      • abadger
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        #23
        Originally posted by raycorey
        Please show me a post where any fan on here actually posted that floyd shouldnt fight Cotto...just one, Dont show me a post where a fan states the reason why Floyd isnt fighting Cotto..Show me just one post where any fan on here says Floyd shouldnt fight Cotto due to Cotto not been a mainstream star.

        Please dont dance around the question
        Erm...that was basically the whole point of the threadstarters post.

        Do not try to tell me that it wasn't.

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        • Bhopreign
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          #24
          Originally posted by raycorey
          Please show me a post where any fan on here actually posted that floyd shouldnt fight Cotto...just one, Dont show me a post where a fan states the reason why Floyd isnt fighting Cotto..Show me just one post where any fan on here says Floyd shouldnt fight Cotto due to Cotto not been a mainstream star.


          Please dont dance around the question
          You wont find one, I even in this thread stated I want to see the fight, so its not like anyone is taking up for Floyd, but I understand his point. Its not different than two and a half years ago when Ricky priced himself out of a fight with Floyd when he asked for 13 million, because he knew it was an event, a once in a lifetime thing, same thing Floyd does at this point in his career, he is taking on huge events, so that means fighting Cotto when it is at its peak, the biggest event possible. Only logical and sensible people understand this.

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          • Ray*
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            #25
            Originally posted by ~Lucky13~
            I'm 100% with you there but what you're doing is supporting the business side as if you were getting a piece of the pot! If you pay $60 to watch a fight you want it to be entertaining and you want the fighter you paid for to fight the best possible opponent out there! If you think otherwise you're NO GOOD for the sport of boxing!!!


            Understanding it is totally different from Supporting it, Support it would be me buying into a dumb fight like Mayweather/Oscar 2. But i understand why he would want to fight oscar again(Money), That doesnt mean i agree with his choice.

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              #26
              Originally posted by abadger
              Erm...that was basically the whole point of the threadstarters post.

              Do not try to tell me that it wasn't.
              This is why I hate posting on any forum, Ive said in this thread more than once and any thread that I post on the argument, that I want to see the fight, but people like you expect people only to read your statement and not backtrack and look what I wrote, dont put words in my mouth.

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                #27
                Originally posted by raycorey
                Please show me a post where any fan on here actually posted that floyd shouldnt fight Cotto...just one, Dont show me a post where a fan states the reason why Floyd isnt fighting Cotto..Show me just one post where any fan on here says Floyd shouldnt fight Cotto due to Cotto not been a mainstream star.


                Please dont dance around the question

                No Cotto Fan cant find a post where a Floyd Fans Say that Floyd Should not Fight Cotto...Boxing Fans are giving HISTORY AND REASON into why the fight hasnt happen...




                The Stipulations Game From Floyd to Cotto..


                Some of the same arguments used against Cotto vs. Floyd
                were being used against Floyd vs. Oscar

                Some Floyd Fans are just using the same standard and credible stipulations Place on Floyd...to fight Oscar....

                On Cotto vs. Floyd ..

                That's just how it goes...

                Us Floyd fans had to wait 6 years for Floyd to Fight Oscar...
                So how you think we felt about that....

                But we didnt ***** and complain as bad as you cotto fans are doing...
                We just set back as we watch Our fighter stack up victories and boost his market appeal and boxing prestige so he could get a fight with Oscar...

                We Waited 6 years for the fight to happen....
                and when it happen we were vindicated....and we rubbed it in Oscar Fans Faces....

                Soo.....now you Cotto fans know how it feels to be fan of a fighter when credible stipulations and standards are put on your fighter as to why he might not fight another fighter THAT YOU WANT HIM TO FIGHT

                ....EVEN AFTER you think YOUR FIGHTER HAS PROVEN THAT HE SHOULD FIGHT THE OTHER FIGHTER....

                and it makes you mad when those arguments are credible why the fight might not happen or why it isnt happening...


                Welcome to THE CLUB...!!!


                Look at HBO making the argument that Floyd isnt a big enough star to fight Oscar..!!!

                3:20-on









                WHAT I DONT GET IS WHY DIDNT THEY PUSH THE
                FLOYD VS. OSCAR FIGHT

                LIKE THEY ARE TRYING TO PUSH THE
                COTTO VS FLOYD FIGHT.....


                WHAT KIND OF DOUBLE STANDARD IS THAT......!!!!!

                @ Larry Merchant and STEWARD



                IRONY



                So basically it is ok for Oscar to make Floyd meet all his stipulations and standards... which amounted in Floyd waiting for 6 years....For Oscar to fight Floyd

                and it is ok that SRL made Hagler Wait until he meet all his stipulations and standards... which amounted in Hagler waiting for 7 years For the SRL vs. Hagler fight to happen

                But it is not ok for Floyd to make Cotto meet all his stipulations and standards... before the Floyd vs. Cotto fight can happen..!!

                Double Standard once again....


                But here is the common factor in any those situations,
                1. the fight eventually happen
                2. When the fight happen it was the biggest thing in Boxing....!!!


                So why Cant Floyd follow a successful Format...!!
                if it works....????

                I not saying Have cotto wait 7 years...or 6 years in Floyd case....

                But why not let Cotto wait, and let the fight Build up to what it should be...!!!


                Obviously this format works...!!!

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                • Scott9945
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by raycorey
                  Please show me a post where any fan on here actually posted that floyd shouldnt fight Cotto...just one, Dont show me a post where a fan states the reason why Floyd isnt fighting Cotto..Show me just one post where any fan on here says Floyd shouldnt fight Cotto due to Cotto not been a mainstream star.


                  Please dont dance around the question

                  When people post here that first "Cotto has to call Floyd out" or that "Cotto has to dump his promoter", that's basically the same thing to me. The first one is a pitiful excuse not to fight and the second one is a ridiculous request.

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                  • deevel79
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by raycorey
                    Please show me a post where any fan on here actually posted that floyd shouldnt fight Cotto...just one, Dont show me a post where a fan states the reason why Floyd isnt fighting Cotto..Show me just one post where any fan on here says Floyd shouldnt fight Cotto due to Cotto not been a mainstream star.


                    Please dont dance around the question
                    Let me make sure i understand the question. Are u saying that there are certain fanboys here who HAVEN'T said that "Floyd shouldnt fight Cotto until Cotto becomes a mainstream star/Major PPV draw?"

                    By implying that Floyd should wait till Cotto becomes a mainstream star, they are saying that Cotto isnt a ppv draw, and therefore brings nothing to the table for Floyd.

                    If you are saying that not 1 poster here hasnt said that, then all u have to do is look up posts from Horus, Burner, Moin126, Money May, and the rest of the "lifestyle flashy/Coalition fanboys. There u will find the answer to your question.

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                    • Bhopreign
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by raycorey

                      Understanding it is totally different from Supporting it, Support it would be me buying into a dumb fight like Mayweather/Oscar 2. But i understand why he would want to fight oscar again(Money), That doesnt mean i agree with his choice.
                      Brother youre right on point and youre from Europe, many wont say the things you say, its pure logic. But when you have fans who are only thinking about their personal entertainment of watching a specific fight you will get responses like that. Id rather Floyd fight someone other than Oscar, but I understand.

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