Is Calzaghe a Top 25 Fighter in the last 30 Years?

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  • Mr. Philadel
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    #111
    Joe is no doubt a top 25 fighter of the last 3 decades! he sucessfully defended his world title more than any boxer in history! that alone is enough to place Joe amongst boxings elite! I just wish he would stick around and fight for 2 or 3 more years!

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    • Clegg
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      #112
      Originally posted by Xplosivo
      i dont think nothing else should be said after this...the nuthugging is quiet shocking if you think Calzaghe is better than Tsyzu [etc.]...he hasnt even achieved 1/10th of what those fighters did
      Originally posted by ~Lucky13~
      oh my, what a list
      I'm not sure who is the bigger moron of you two. I'd really like to lock the two of you in a room together for the rest of your lives, where you could argue over who the best welterweight of all time was, Mike Tyson or Willie Pep.

      Seriously guys, find a new sport, because anyone saying things like "Calzaghe is the best ever, Morales is a nobody, Chavez was a tomato can" or "Calzaghe is a nobody, not in the p4p top 90000, Tyson[born in '66] was 43 when he quit" has really got things screwed up when it comes to boxing.

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      • Clegg
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        #113
        Originally posted by Xplosivo
        Fact is calzaghe can never say he has beaten a great fighter in his prime....all those other guys can
        Ok then, which great, in their prime fighters did the following beat:

        Tszyu
        JMM
        Mike Tyson
        Larry Holmes
        Spinks
        George Foreman(last 30 years, remember)
        Toney (maybe Nunn, but I'm not sure many would call Nunn an ATG)
        Manny Pacquiao (no, Barrera and Morales were not in their prime)
        Lennox Lewis

        I'm not arguing that Calzaghe is better than the above, but I am asking that you tell me which great, in their prime fighters they beat. The fact is that there aren't that many great fighters out there, and so there are quite a few top boxers who have never beat a great, prime fighter. Holyfield is a great, but his best win was against either Tyson, who was past his best, or Bowe, who is not an ATG.

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        • CraigM
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          #114
          The thing a lot of people don't get is, just because you don't like a fighter maybe just because he is from Britain, doesn't make him any less of a fighter. He's the first person to be ring champion at two weights at the same time, and unified his division against a very good fighter in his prime.

          If he isn't in the top 25 then you obviously just have a bias against him

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          • ElGranLuchador
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            #115
            of couerse the guy is the king of 2 divisions currently and he cant be defeated

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            • daggum
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              #116
              Originally posted by ElGranLuchador
              of couerse the guy is the king of 2 divisions currently and he cant be defeated
              you missed the hopkins fight?

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              • ElGranLuchador
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                #117
                Originally posted by daggum
                you missed the hopkins fight?
                no i watched it calzaghe won every single round except the one he slipped, the second and maybe just maybe the 7th

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                • aussieboxer2320
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                  #118
                  Originally posted by Clegg

                  Tszyu: Was beaten by Phillips, who was only slightly above the level of journeyman fighter. Tszyu had some good wins but would've lost to Mayweather or de la Hoya and I don't consider him to be a great.
                  you obviously havent seen to many of tszyus fights, the guy dominated the division, he lost to phillips as a result of poor preperation which lead to weight drain which lead to burnout, he lost to hatton because he was plain old, and those low blows by hatton and the fact the referree basically let hatton hug and hit and use his forearms and elbows all night didnt help tszyus cause

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                  • Macho Madness
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                    #119
                    hey u ****** nuthuggers im ****in bak, ive been readin and it bull**** wat some of u calzaghe lovers believe, xplosivo and aussie the only 2 blokes that makin any real sence, he is an ok fighter that has gotten lucky and has dominated a division with no super-star challengers, i cant w8 till he gets knocked the *** out cause im on nuthugger hunting!!

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                    • 1g5a22
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                      #120
                      hell yeah,top 10 even!

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