Is Calzaghe a Top 25 Fighter in the last 30 Years?

[majestiC]

yea im going bed its 5am lol!

[dog1dog2]

Michael Spinks-good amateur that's it, didn't belong in the pros

I started at the bottom of your "list," and then stopped after reading only this.....I've read a lot of ignorance on this site over time, but this ranks right up there with the worst of it.......Michael Spinks was an absolutely dominant champ at LHW, then stepped up and beat a 48-0 Larry Holmes weighing 199lbs!!!!

You say that Michael Spinks "didn't belong in the pros," and then have the audacity to call others ignorant......breathtakingly ironic.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Joe Calzaghe is the rightful owner of 2 World championships right now. I think that is quite an accomplishment. How many other fighters on that list have done that in the last 30 years?

[Williamb45]

your list is absolute RUBBISH!!!
you sir, know jack **** about boxing!!!

I stopped after you discredited Holyfield.

PS I do think he is in the top 25 (barely, he would probably replace Tito), but you my friend are a fool for discretiting legends.

[Williamb45]

everyone would be undefeated with fighting tocker pudwills, byron mitchells or peter manfredos of the world....the best name he has faced was an ancient hopkins who he couldnt clearly beat....the best win was kessler who hasnt proved **** yet and is already thinking about retirement

please highlight the ones you think calzaghe has accomplished/achieved more than in boxing:

Pernell Whitaker
Oscar De La Hoya
Felix Trinidad
Roy Jones Jr
Bernard Hopkins
Floyd Mayweather
Lennox Lewis
Evander Holyfield
Mike Tyson
Larry Holmes
George Foreman
Manny Pacquiao
Erik Morales
Marco Antonio Barrera
Julio Cesar Chavez
James Toney
Juan Manuel Marquez
Wilfredo Gomez
Alexis Arguello
Miguel Cotto?Pending margarito fight
Aaron Pryor
Roberto Duran
Kostya Tsyzu
Thomas Hearns
Sugar Ray Leonard
Winky Wright
Shane Mosley
Michael Spinks
Jose Luis Castillo

I think those are behind Calzaghe.

[TheGreatA]

oh my, what a list

Felix Trinidad-all he had is left hook, big puncher, no skill whatsoever
Roy Jones Jr
Bernard Hopkins-barely won fights against journey men, never dominated anyone in his weight class, hugely overrated
Floyd Mayweather
Lennox Lewis
Evander Holyfield-this guy got like 10 losses so i don't know how you got him on the list, how many losses does joe have?! that's right, 0
Mike Tyson-crack addict, tested positive for marijuana, got beaten by journey men, has wins over HW which participated in the worst possible era
Larry Holmes-worst era ever
George Foreman
Manny Pacquiao-keeps fighting washed up mexicans
Erik Morales-famous for fighting mexicans that hold these weird titles nobody knows like, ifh, wbs and **** like that
Marco Antonio Barrera-famous for fighting someone like morales, who's pretty much nobody knows
Julio Cesar Chavez-tomato can, got ****ted on when he stepped up in competition like his son, overprotected fighter, hometown fighter
James Toney-LOL!
Juan Manuel Marquez-this guy goes up in competition and loses, can't handle pressure, not champion worthy
Wilfredo Gomez-LOL! who?
Alexis Arguello-who?
Miguel Cotto-LOL! cotto better than calzaghe?! your boxing knowledge is nano-like
Aaron Pryor-overrated flashy fighter
Roberto Duran
Kostya Tsyzu-beaten by an exposed brit
Thomas Hearns
Sugar Ray Leonard
Winky Wright-LOL! lost to vargas who got beat by an overrated ODLH
Shane Mosley-it's not surprising his PPV are garbage, he's overrated
Michael Spinks-good amateur that's it, didn't belong in the pros

Congratulations, that is absolutely the worst post I've ever seen on this forum since I started posting here.

[boxaholic]

James Toney at least. Joe Luis Castillo maybe and that is where it stops. In my opinion he is top 25 but top 20 is a reach.

[Clegg]

Here are some fighters to help you decide...

Is calzaghe even top 25 from the last 30 years?

here are some 30 fighters:

Pernell Whitaker
Oscar De La Hoya
Felix Trinidad
Roy Jones Jr
Bernard Hopkins
Floyd Mayweather
Lennox Lewis
Evander Holyfield
Mike Tyson
Larry Holmes
George Foreman
Manny Pacquiao
Erik Morales
Marco Antonio Barrera
Julio Cesar Chavez
James Toney
Juan Manuel Marquez
Wilfredo Gomez
Alexis Arguello
Miguel Cotto
Aaron Pryor
Roberto Duran
Kostya Tsyzu
Thomas Hearns
Sugar Ray Leonard
Winky Wright
Shane Mosley
Michael Spinks
Jose Luis Castillo

if yes which fighters is he better than from this list? this is based on accomplishments/achievements...

You have Castillo, but not Marvin Hagler?

Anyway I would say that I'm not sure if I'd have Calzaghe in the top 25, but I would have him above some of the people on your list.

Tszyu: Was beaten by Phillips, who was only slightly above the level of journeyman fighter. Tszyu had some good wins but would've lost to Mayweather or de la Hoya and I don't consider him to be a great.

Trinidad: In terms of achievements he is above Calzaghe, although I think that Calzaghe was/is a better fighter in a p4p sense. I think Trinidad is somewhat overrated and would've had a hard time beating Ike Quartey or Sugar Shane had they met at 147. Regardless though, Tito achieved more than either of them and so I have no problem with people rating him above Calzaghe.

George Foreman: If we're judging people based upon what they've done in the past 30 years then no, Foreman is not above Calzaghe in either abilities, performances or achievements.

Castillo: A good fighter but not a great fighter.

JMM: Very good but has lost to lesser fighters than Calzaghe and did not perform well on more than one occassion when I was expecting him to be impressive (vs Barrera and Chris John).

Cotto: A bit premature, let's wait and see how the rest of his career goes.

Winky: I think that his achievements are overrated and that his losses detract from his overall standing. I would not rate him above Calzaghe. It's wrong if people look at Calzaghe's unbeaten record and use it as evidence of his greatness, but it's also wrong to act as if wins over Shane and past-his-best Trinidad are good enough to completely forget his defeats, even if he some feel that he should've been given certain decisions that went the other way.

[THE REED]

wow... 26 - 27


ask that same question about roy and itd be 50-3

with that said... joe is def a top 25 fighter...

[Williamb45]

wow... 26 - 27


ask that same question about roy and itd be 50-3

with that said... joe is def a top 25 fighter...

Roy is on a league of his own. Given his performances in his peak, I would rate him in the top 25 of all time. Its silly to even compare them 2.