JERMAIN TAYLOR is BETTER then CALZAGHE

[DrewWoodside]

This thread makes me chuckle. Joe is beatable, Taylor is beatable, Pavlik is beatable and so is Kessler.

All of them show weaknesses to me. Joe vs Jermain seems like a good competitive fight to me. Kessler is a good fighter, but he is not some gargantuan uncrushable object. Joe is also not the unbeatable immortal that many in here think he is.

Why is it as soon as someone compares a potential matchup for Joe, his fans start sputtering out the name Kessler like it is some unachievable benchmark for anyone else? Joe does the same thing though so I guess it's contagious.

Have you seen Kessler's Tats? He most certainly is invincible.

[deanrw]

Have you seen Kessler's Tats? He most certainly is invincible.

green K your way man.

[Mr. Philadel]

JT got outworked by Pavlik in the rematch, so Joe would have no problem doing the same! as far as technique or skill, I don't think JT really has too much on Calz! I love JT's jab, then its hard to say what he can do thats so special....

[RichCCFC]

JT got outworked by Pavlik in the rematch, so Joe would have no problem doing the same! as far as technique or skill, I don't think JT really has too much on Calz! I love JT's jab, then its hard to say what he can do thats so special....

Am I really seeing this?

A Hopkins fan who likes Calzaghe too?

Wow.

[MikeBrew328]

The difference between Calzaghe and Pavlik is that Pavliks shots are much more straight and accurate. I don't know what you could call Calzaghe's...

Taylor thrives off guys like Calzaghe... Taylor needs his opponent to come forward, Taylor fights guys off him, he doesn't like chasing down opponents.

With that said I could see the fight turning out just like Hopkins Calzaghe.

[Mr. Philadel]

Am I really seeing this?

A Hopkins fan who likes Calzaghe too?

Wow.

its called Real recognizin Real! plus I just love boxing man! after the fight's over the fight is over!

[Clegg]

Why is it as soon as someone compares a potential matchup for Joe, his fans start sputtering out the name Kessler like it is some unachievable benchmark for anyone else? Joe does the same thing though so I guess it's contagious.

I think the reason why in this thread is because some posters are acting as if Calzaghe has never beaten anybody who had a good jab.

[Clegg]

Well outside of OUMA, every single fighter TAYLOR has fought has been significantly BETTER then KESSLER. Especially Hopkins and Wright, and yes, even Spink is better then Kessler although an extremely soft hitter and pretty boring

Every single fighter? Nah, you don't mean that, what you mean is every fighter at world title level. That would be Spinks, Wright, Ouma, Hopkins and Pavlik.

You say yourself that Ouma wasn't, so he's off the list. Taylor lost to Pavlik twice, so he's off the list. Calzaghe beat Hopkins too, so he's off the list. And drawing with Winky at middleweight is not, in my opinion, "significantly better" than clearly beating Kessler at 168.

I think that Kessler is better at 168 now than Spinks was at 160 going into the Taylor fight. Spinks is a welterweight who has lost to average fighters like Verno '104 years old' Phillips. "Significantly better than Kessler"? Ha.

[RichCCFC]

I guess I'll get a lot of flack for this, but it think Taylor is undeniably the more talented fighter, and if they were ever to fight, i dont see how you could pick Calzaghe.

Taylor has a great jab and Calzaghe literally does nothing to overcome a good jab. He just runs in there.

Jab, Straight right hand, all night for Taylor. He avoided the ropes brilliantly against Pavlik in that rematch. No doubt he is terrible fighting off the ropes, he is no james toney, but he has become very good at avoiding them.

So in the center of the ring, i think Taylor outclasses Calzaghe with Calzaghe floundering around like a ****** for the much of the fight.

Does anybody honestly believe that Calzaghe would have beaten HOpkins if HOpkins had the legs to avoid the ropes???

I still get a chuckle when people call Calzaghe a good boxer. He is a good FIGHTER. He has very limited boxing ability, and it'll take a guy like Taylor with his quick jab to expose that.

Calzaghe-Pavlik is a much more even and close fight. Id pick Taylor by stoppage over Calzaghe in the late rounds.

i wasnt "impressed" by taylor like i thought i was gonna be.

He clinched a smaller man, and tired far to early, He missed way to much, and he got hit to much.

I was EXpECTING a semi-early KO, but i underestimated OUMA's chin at 160 pounds.

With that said, i thought Taylor did fairly well. He could be in some GREAT fights if he'd stob unneccisarily clinching. Id rather have 2 guys stand across from eachother doing nothing, then clinching...

BUT, Taylor is extremely talented at what he does. He manages to generate a lot of power going backwards and can fight off the ropes and in the center of the ring.

I was more impressed with OUMA then UNIMpRESSED with Taylor.

BUt i do think Taylors style gets dominated by Calzaghe

Not what you said in 2006.

[ElGranLuchador]

I guess I'll get a lot of flack for this, but it think Taylor is undeniably the more talented fighter, and if they were ever to fight, i dont see how you could pick Calzaghe.

Taylor has a great jab and Calzaghe literally does nothing to overcome a good jab. He just runs in there.

Jab, Straight right hand, all night for Taylor. He avoided the ropes brilliantly against Pavlik in that rematch. No doubt he is terrible fighting off the ropes, he is no james toney, but he has become very good at avoiding them.

So in the center of the ring, i think Taylor outclasses Calzaghe with Calzaghe floundering around like a ****** for the much of the fight.

Does anybody honestly believe that Calzaghe would have beaten HOpkins if HOpkins had the legs to avoid the ropes???

I still get a chuckle when people call Calzaghe a good boxer. He is a good FIGHTER. He has very limited boxing ability, and it'll take a guy like Taylor with his quick jab to expose that.

Calzaghe-Pavlik is a much more even and close fight. Id pick Taylor by stoppage over Calzaghe in the late rounds.

kball ur quickly becoming a nuthugger and a hater
i dont blame u i guess the calzaghe threads finally got to u