Best Featherweight of this Era?

[Steak]

Morales has beaten:
Zaragoza
Junior Jones
McCullogh
Barrera(At least once)
Kevin Kelley
Guty Espadas Jr.
In-Jin Chi
Ayala
Jesus Chavez
Manny Pacquio

I actually would say Barrera has the better wins...but his losses mess him up a little. almost all the losses Morales suffered where when he was at the very end of his career, while Barrera's losses to Jones were almost at his height at Super Bantamweight. the 1st Pacquiao loss he was past his best, but not at the end of his career. he was kind of in a transition period actually...

personally, I had their first fight a draw...but keep in mind thats me not counting the bull**** 'knockdown' in the 12th round.

personally, I think Marquez has the least best record out of all of them, and I think he beat Pacquiao both times. no offense to Marquez, but other than his wins over Pacquiao(which may not even be considered wins by other people...they were definately very close fights) he doesnt too many other great wins. Remember, these are incredibly good fighters...being rated the lowest out of them is not an insult whatsoever.

[-Antonio-]

Pacauiao cant touch a prime Morales.

[Left Hook Tua]

Pacauiao cant touch a prime Morales.

but remember during their 1st fight pacquiao wasn't in his prime (technique wise) and it was his first fight at 130 as well. his loss to erik made him realize to use his right more often and more effectively as can be seen with his later fights with larios , morales and velazquez.

i think erik in his prime beats manny by ud or sd in a great fight. i think manny beats barrera prime though. bad style matchup for marco. resume and legacy wise in the featherweight divisions (122,126,130) i think manny is 3rd behind marco and erik. overall resume though will probably go to manny when it's all said and done. (if you count his flyweight title and if he adds a 135-lb. belt or 2)

[ELPacman]

1.Morales
2.Barrera
3.Pac
4.Marquez
5.Hamed

Yup, this is my list also.

[-Hyperion-]

i think overall(skill+resume) it's morales...


it's really hard to explain.....i think he should be 1W-1L-1D or 2W-1L vs Barrera honestly....plus his resume overall is great he fought the best in all the weightclasses he was at....if he had beat either naz or JMM i would undoubtly say he was the best cus the only thing barrera has on him is names...

barrera was seriously af ucking machine at 122 IMO....very underrated...i dunno why people appreciate the feather barrera more....he had his biggest wins there, but i thought his ferocity made him a beast at 122....his second loss to jones is debatable IMO....and i dislike barrera a lot but i thought hbo was nuthugging the **** out of jones in that fight.....and i think thats barrera's premier display of boxer-puncher along with his 3rd fight with morales...the problem with him is he lost very close to his prime and i thought he lost twice to morales...or a draw in the first fight and lost the second...and the losses to pacquiao and first loss to jones hurt him...

marquez is kinda hard to judge...imcsonvinced he beat john and pacquiao both times...norwood fight is awful i dont even know what the **** to judge...but if i had to id give it to marquez as welll...and his skill is superior to barrera and morales i think.....but his resume is not as good.....even if you count pacquiao for him....plus the competitiveness that barrera showed in their fight suggest we wouldve seen a pick'em in their primes...(i thought marquez won kinda wide on points btw but i also thought barrera was always one punch or 2 from turning it around and marquez was a little closer to his prime...)

pacquiao is great and more gifted athletically than the other fighters.. but he is just not skilled enough to beat morales or marquez in their primes....he has a stylistical advantage over marco and would almost always beat him IMO...


id rank em':

morales
barrera/marquez
pacman
hamed

[ferocity]

Hamed doesn't get many votes but after voting im thinking he stayed at featherweight longer? Even though he gets hate he did beat some good competition.

But I picked Morales, though i don't think he stayed at featherweight too long. If not Morales then Barrera being that he beat Hamed. Marquez just didn't get enough chances to beat the top fighters at featherweight.

As for pac, he didn't fight anybody but Barrera and lost to Marquez.

[Motofan]

Tough, tough call. It's between MAB, ET and JMM. People forget what monsters MAB and ET were in there primes. I once saw Morales drop a guy and hit him 3 or 4 times on his way down. That always stuck in my mind. It's really hard for me to say on this one, but...

1) Morales/Barrera
2) Barrera/Morales
3) Marquez
4) Pac
5) Hamed

[Left Hook Tua]

Hamed doesn't get many votes but after voting im thinking he stayed at featherweight longer? Even though he gets hate he did beat some good competition.

But I picked Morales, though i don't think he stayed at featherweight too long. If not Morales then Barrera being that he beat Hamed. Marquez just didn't get enough chances to beat the top fighters at featherweight.

As for pac, he didn't fight anybody but Barrera and lost to Marquez.

wins over ledwaba , larios and julio are pretty equal to medina , peden , gainer. no? pretty equal to juan alleged "WINS" over norwood and john as well. i don't want to get into it about the manny-juan fights so we'll just call both a draw and not count either fights and a close to prime barrera in 2003 would be a tougher fight than any juan manuel has on his resume.

and just in the last 2-3 years i'd take wins over larios , solis , velazquez , past prime morales and past prime barrera over jandeang , jaca , past prime barrera and juarez in my resume anyday.

[Guest]

You're the exact guy I'm looking for when I started this thread.

Can I ask why you think Juan is better than Marco or Erik? I can understand better than Manny if you think Juan won both fights but over Marco and Erik?

Juan's resume is good but nothing like Marco's or Erik's.

Let me see. He's beaten Peden , Marco , Medina , Sanchez , Gainer and Juarez.

Can't compare to Marco's wins over Morales , Hamed , McKinney , Juarez , Sanchez , Ayala , Kelley , Tapia , Peden.

I'm your huckleberry.
Juan had better skills and beat Barrera. Morales was perfect until Barrera beat him and lost on the cards in their first fight (at 122).
Yes, it's easy to argue Barrera and Morales has better resumes than JMM, that doesn't mean they were better fighters.

Barrera is number 2 but JMM is better and proved it in the ring. Hamed lost a lot after his fight with Kelley, Tapia was blown up, and Peden was shriveled up. He also lost twice to Poison.....Junior Jones.

JMM had worse management but better skills.

[Left Hook Tua]

I'm your huckleberry.
Juan had better skills and beat Barrera. Morales was perfect until Barrera beat him and lost on the cards in their first fight (at 122).
Yes, it's easy to argue Barrera and Morales has better resumes than JMM, that doesn't mean they were better fighters.

Barrera is number 2 but JMM is better and proved it in the ring. Hamed lost a lot after his fight with Kelley, Tapia was blown up, and Peden was shriveled up. He also lost twice to Poison.....Junior Jones.

JMM had worse management but better skills.

better skills than manny everyone can see. (speed and power is a great equalizer though)

but better skills than marco and erik? maybe but not by much and enough to compensate for (imho) barrera and morales' better chins and punching power?

yes he beat barrera but that's not a prime barrera. i think juan is in his prime right now. i know he's a little bit older than barrera and morales but people hit their prime at different times. (the wars didn't help marco and erik much)

i think juan manuel is better now than he was 5-6 years ago. the juan manuel that showed up last march would not have lost to norwood or john imo.