Best Featherweight of this Era?

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  • loui_ludwig
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    #121
    Watch the Torrecampo KO Pacquiao at youtube numerous times. It seems that Torre hit Pac in the stomach, that hurt Pac. Can't really tell, but their might have been an accidental headbutt when Torre threw the punch to the body. And when Pac hit the canvas, it seems he hit his head on the canvas. Also, when Torre threw that punch to the head, it seems he miss. As you can see, Pac was bending down then went down. Torre when he threw the punch carried him to the rope. If he did connect, he shouldn't have gone to the ropes.
    Last edited by loui_ludwig; 04-13-2008, 10:35 AM.

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    • loui_ludwig
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      #122
      Originally posted by BennyST
      I just thought I might throw a couple of extra names for you. If you're going to include guys like Solis, Larios and Ledwaba for Pac and only put in Barrera and Juarez for Marquez...well, we must rectify that, as he has a few more better names than that (a hell of a lot better than a guy like Solis anyway).

      Marquez wins: Barrera, Juarez, Manuel Medina, Derrick 'Smoke' Gainer, Agapito Sanchez, Robbie Peden.
      If you can see near the end of my post, i put "i apologized if i made mistakes or did not include names that are notables". Don't know if they were rank top 10 in their respective division at that time.

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      • Harold. Jr.
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        #123
        I gatta tell you taht if you said Prince Naseem wthe best, as did 8 idiots then go and headbutt a wall for three hours (or sparr with Hopkins, i hear he pays well) while watching Pacquiao or Barrera.

        JIM!

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        • ferocity
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          #124
          Originally posted by loui_ludwig
          Naseem Hamed
          36 wins 1 Lost
          Wins over: Agapito Sanchez, Kevin Kelly, Wayne McCullough
          Lost 2: Marco Antontion Barera
          Titles: WBO featherweight. According to boxrec, he also won the IBF but only had it for a shot time(strip of title?)

          Marco Antonio Barrera
          63 wins 6 lost
          Wins over: Erik Morales, Hamed, kevin Kelley, Sanchez, Kennedy McKinney, Johnny Tapia, Rocky Juarez.
          Lost to: Junior Jones, Manny Pacquiao, and Juan Manual Marquez
          Titles: WBO super bantamweight, WBC featherweight, WBC and IBF super feahteriweight. MAB was stripped of featherweight title.

          Erik Morales
          48 wins 6 lost
          Wins over: Barrera, Pacquiao, Daniel Zaragoza, J. Jones, Kelley, McCullough, In Ji Chi, Jesus Chavez, Paulie Ayala
          Lost to: Pacquiao and Barrera
          Titles: WBC super bantam, feather, and super featherweight

          Manny Pacquiao:
          46 wins 3 lost 2 draw
          Wins Over: Barrera, Morales, JM Marquez, Larios, Solis, Ledwaba
          Lost to: Erik Morales
          Draw: JMM, Sanchez(no contest)
          Titles: Ring feather and super featherweight, IBF super bantam, WBC super featherweight.

          Juan Manuel Marquez:
          48 wins 4 lost 1 draw
          Wins over: Barrera, Juarez
          Lost to: Pacquiao, John, Norwood
          Draw: Pacquiao
          Titles: WBA and IBF featherwieght, WBC super featherweigtht

          I apologized if there are mistakes or not included fighters notable or rank in top 10 in each featherweight division.

          #################################################
          I voted for Pac but want to change it to Erik Morales.

          1. Morales
          2. Barrera
          3. Pacquiao
          Hamed beat Tom Johnson, Cesar Soto(even though he used wrestling tactics) and Manuel Medina which weren't mentioned and those are good wins too. This is without seeing boxrec. I think it goes

          1. Morales
          2. Barrera
          3.Marquez
          4.Hamed
          5 Pacquiao

          I think all the above Pacquiao had a better resume then Pacquiao. Pacquiao if i recall only stayed at featherweight for a few fights.

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          • loui_ludwig
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            #125
            Originally posted by ferocity
            Hamed beat Tom Johnson, Cesar Soto(even though he used wrestling tactics) and Manuel Medina which weren't mentioned and those are good wins too. This is without seeing boxrec. I think it goes

            1. Morales
            2. Barrera
            3.Marquez
            4.Hamed
            5 Pacquiao

            I think all the above Pacquiao had a better resume then Pacquiao. Pacquiao if i recall only stayed at featherweight for a few fights.
            Pacquiao on the bottom of your list does not suprise me.

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              #126
              Originally posted by loui_ludwig
              Pacquiao on the bottom of your list does not suprise me.
              Im not a fan of Pacquiao. But his resume is not deep at featherweight, some people make a big deal of his win over Ledwado, Ledwado was a ****ty fighter(comparing to the others) he was a fighter that HBO was hyping just like they hype any fighter that win is not a great win but a good win but not to be over exaggerated. He beat Barrera while Barrera was going threw a lot of ****, this can't be ignored. Nor can the fact that Marquez beat him at featherweight(then again at jr. lightweight)

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              • loui_ludwig
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                #127
                Originally posted by ferocity
                Im not a fan of Pacquiao. But his resume is not deep at featherweight, some people make a big deal of his win over Ledwado, Ledwado was a ****ty fighter(comparing to the others) he was a fighter that HBO was hyping just like they hype any fighter that win is not a great win but a good win but not to be over exaggerated. He beat Barrera while Barrera was going threw a lot of ****, this can't be ignored. Nor can the fact that Marquez beat him at featherweight(then again at jr. lightweight)
                JMM beat Pac on your score. The judges has it a draw. But u know of that 1 judge who scored the 1st round. If it was corrected, Pac would have won by split decision. Just like how he won by in their rematch. It is not a robbery, even the media and fans there was no robbery and the fight was close that could go either way.

                Ledwaba is no big deal now cuz Pacquiao beat him. Pac was the underdog with 2 weeks notice.

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                • Left Hook Tua
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                  #128
                  Originally posted by deevel79
                  I picked Barerra, although i feel JMM was better than both of them.
                  only 10 votes in this poll doesn't support your opinion.

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                    #129
                    Originally posted by ferocity
                    Im not a fan of Pacquiao. But his resume is not deep at featherweight, some people make a big deal of his win over Ledwado, Ledwado was a ****ty fighter(comparing to the others) he was a fighter that HBO was hyping just like they hype any fighter that win is not a great win but a good win but not to be over exaggerated. He beat Barrera while Barrera was going threw a lot of ****, this can't be ignored. Nor can the fact that Marquez beat him at featherweight(then again at jr. lightweight)
                    if you want to get specific about just 126......

                    ledwaba was at super bantamweight and it was a great win.

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                    • rdr02000
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                      #130
                      Yes, you are right......

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