Is Popkins overrated?

[Karlos81]

am i the only one that thinks this fight is pointless?

No its not.

Hopkins beat 175lb fight vs the greatest 168lb fighter of all time.]

Both 20 title defences, Hopkins ducked Calzaghe at least twice.

Needs to happen although:

Hopkins is a freak of natural and Calzaghe at 36 is wow.

[tyson]

Popkins has a resume full of names that nobody knows.
Roy Jones and Taylor are well known but he lost to them.
Oscar, Tito, Winky are all naturally smaller than Popkins and they had no business fighting in his weight class.
Popkins is overrated.

Why start a thread with the question "is Popkins overrated?"
when you've already made up your mind that he is?

You have no intention of learning about his accomplishments, you're just interested in putting him down, convincing people that he is overrated.

You go on to say that nobody knows the names he beat just because you don't know yourself.
That is the mark of ignorance.

Taylor is well known, but for what? He was lucky enough to get the media interested and thus making fans like you aware of his existence.
But that does not mean that he is far superior to every other opponent Hopkins faced.

The Manchine has the decency to proper educate you about his opponents and yet you respond in an undifferent manner like you don't care.

You did not want a legitimate answer to your "question", you just wanted to be an ass.
****, you didn't even understand The Manchine's point when he responded with saying Calzaghe is overrated because nobody knows his opposition.

Double standard, ignorance and a ****y mind-set will only dig you a deep grave in life.

Get real.

[Lucky13]

Why start a thread with the question "is Popkins overrated?"
when you've already made up your mind that he is?

You have no intention of learning about his accomplishments, you're just interested in putting him down, convincing people that he is overrated.
You go on to say that nobody knows the names he beat just because you don't know yourself.That is the mark of ignorance.

Taylor is well known, but for what? He was lucky enough to get the media interested and thus making fans like you aware of his existence.
But that does not mean that he is far superior to every other opponent Hopkins faced.
The Manchine has the decency to proper educate you about his opponents and yet you respond in an undifferent manner like you don't care.

You did not want a legitimate answer to your "question", you just wanted to be an ass.****, you didn't even understand The Manchine's point when he responded with saying Calzaghe is overrated because nobody knows his opposition.

Double standard, ignorance and a ****y mind-set will only dig you a deep grave in life.

Get real.

I'll reply to the balded parts.
First of all that's just an assumption, you don't know my intentions so that goes out the line, all you can do is assume this and that.
I am very aware of his opposition and to me, it's really not that impressive which leads me to believe that Popkins is overrated.
Taylor is actually far superior to Popkins opposition, aside from Roy Jones, Taylor beats everyone Popkins has versed.
Manchine wasn't educating anybody, everything he said was basic and there was nothing new that "educated" me.
And again in the last balded part, you're just assuming.

[tyson]

I'll reply to the balded parts.
First of all that's just an assumption, you don't know my intentions so that goes out the line, all you can do is assume this and that.
I am very aware of his opposition and to me, it's really not that impressive which leads me to believe that Popkins is overrated.
Taylor is actually far superior to Popkins opposition, aside from Roy Jones, Taylor beats everyone Popkins has versed.
Manchine wasn't educating anybody, everything he said was basic and there was nothing new that "educated" me.
And again in the last balded part, you're just assuming.

Well, you are right that I'm assuming that you don't want answers.
But it's very easy to reason that you don't, since any point that's being made, you just skip and say people didn't know the names. He's overrated.

And even if Taylor is far superiour to the rest of the opposition, it doesn't matter. Last time I checked, Taylor got his ass handed to him in the later rounds. By an old, way out of prime Hopkins.
If the fights had been 15 rounders, Taylor would probably not have been a contender after that. Of course, this is only an assumption too, but a reasonable one.

You haven't made a single logical point as to why Hopkins is overrated.
And overrated by what standard exactly?

[Lucky13]

Well, you are right that I'm assuming that you don't want answers.
But it's very easy to reason that you don't, since any point that's being made, you just skip and say people didn't know the names. He's overrated.

And even if Taylor is far superiour to the rest of the opposition, it doesn't matter. Last time I checked, Taylor got his ass handed to him in the later rounds. By an old, way out of prime Hopkins.
If the fights had been 15 rounders, Taylor would probably not have been a contender after that. Of course, this is only an assumption too, but a reasonable one.

You haven't made a single logical point as to why Hopkins is overrated.
And overrated by what standard exactly?

He's overrated by his fans and their standards.
They talk about him being a legend, he's not, he just isn't.
You can argue Floyd being a legend, Roy being a legend because they moved up in weight and did what they had to do, but Popkins?!
Hell no, never.
I'm not impressed by him, he started his debut at light heavyweight and then moved down only to beat a good number of blown up welterweights and light middleweights. That doesn't do it for me.

[Benn_Foust]

How can he possibly be overrated? He is an all time great fighter and definitely up there with Marvin Hagler.

[tyson]

He's overrated by his fans and their standards.
They talk about him being a legend, he's not, he just isn't.
You can argue Floyd being a legend, Roy being a legend because they moved up in weight and did what they had to do, but Popkins?!
Hell no, never.
I'm not impressed by him, he started his debut at light heavyweight and then moved down only to beat a good number of blown up welterweights and light middleweights. That doesn't do it for me.

What about the Marvelous one? He never left middleweight.
Is he a legend? Why?
For beating up blown ups like Leonard, Hearns and Duran?

[warp1432]

And he lost to lenoard too. That leaves John Mugabi.

The guy that has like a million losses.

[Ironside]

What about the Marvelous one? He never left middleweight.
Is he a legend? Why?
For beating up blown ups like Leonard, Hearns and Duran?

I think that's a bad comparison, first, Hagler was a natural middle-weight, went a few times to 168 in the beginning of his career, so the size difference between him and the other 3 is not that big, both Hearns and Leonard were taller, and had longer reach than him, also, can you really compare, the likes of Trinidad and DLH to the likes of Hearns, Lenoard, Duran?

[Lucky13]

What about the Marvelous one? He never left middleweight.
Is he a legend? Why?
For beating up blown ups like Leonard, Hearns and Duran?

The Marvelous one didn't pick on welterweights.
He went against guys like John Mugabi, I wonder if Popkins would ever have the balls to fight someone like Mugabi, I'm sure he'd make an excuse or do anything to avoid a real threat like him, you know his famous "Lets split the pot 90% to 10%" excuse.
Leonard, Hearns, Hagler, and Duran where the Fantastic Four, they're miles away from Popkins.