Is Popkins overrated?

[TheGreatA]

Kessler, Lacy, Eubank, Reid are all legitimate super middleweights. I'd like to see Popkins against Kessler or Eubank.

Trinidad? He spent nearly 90% of his career fighting welter weights.
Johnson? He has like 100 losses.
Wright? Another naturally smaller boxer that Popkins barely beat.
Tarver? He's so inconsistent I can't take him that seriously.
Oscar? Started fighting at like super featherweight, where did Popkins start? He started his career at light heavyweight. See the difference between Popkins and his opposition?

You also have to remember that

Trinidad:
Was undefeated for over 40 fights with wins over Vargas, DLH, old Whitaker.
Held titles at WW, LMW and MW.
Had just DEMOLISHED a middleweight champion William Joppy.
Heavily favoured over Bernard Hopkins.

Johnson:
Was undefeated for over 30 fights against Bernard Hopkins.
Went on to lose many razor-close decisions that could've easily gone his way.
Decisioned Clinton Woods.
Knocked out Roy Jones.
Decisioned Tarver.
Rated the Fighter of the year in 2004.

Wright:
Had not lost for a long time.
Coming off victories over Quartey and Trinidad and a draw over the MW champion Jermain Taylor.
Ranked p4p one of the best.
Favoured over Bernard Hopkins.

Tarver:
Had knocked out Roy Jones.
Decisioned Glen Johnson.
Undisputed LHW champion.
Heavily favoured over Bernard Hopkins.

Oscar De La Hoya:
Money.

I could also unfairly criticize Calzaghe's wins over Reid, Eubank, Lacy and Kessler by saying they have only fought Europeans, Calzaghe should've lost to Reid, overrated, went on to lose their next fights, blah blah...

[ROSS CALIFORNIA]

It's funny reading this whole post. Maybe some Americans do overrate Hopkins. But what's going to happen if Calz beats an old Hopkins? UK fans will probably say he beat one of the greatest champions in history. It goes both ways guys and one is not better than the other.

[Lucky13]

You also have to remember that

Trinidad:
Was undefeated for over 40 fights with wins over Vargas, DLH, old Whitaker.
Held titles at WW, LMW and MW.
Had just DEMOLISHED a middleweight champion William Joppy.
Heavily favoured over Bernard Hopkins.

Johnson:
Was undefeated for over 30 fights against Bernard Hopkins.
Went on to lose many razor-close decisions that could've easily gone his way.
Decisioned Clinton Woods.
Knocked out Roy Jones.
Decisioned Tarver.
Rated the Fighter of the year in 2004.

Wright:
Had not lost for a long time.
Coming off victories over Quartey and Trinidad and a draw over the MW champion Jermain Taylor.
Ranked p4p one of the best.
Favoured over Bernard Hopkins.

Tarver:
Had knocked out Roy Jones.
Decisioned Glen Johnson.
Undisputed LHW champion.
Heavily favoured over Bernard Hopkins.

Oscar De La Hoya:
Money.

I could also unfairly criticize Calzaghe's wins over Reid, Eubank, Lacy and Kessler by saying they have only fought Europeans, Calzaghe should've lost to Reid, went on to lose their next fights, blah blah...

The thing that bothers me the most is the people that talk about Popkins like he's a legend, no he just isn't. Not with that resume. Trinidad's wins are over opponents that are just too small to be fighting Popkins and the same goes with Oscar, I guess Popkins legitimate wins are over a shot Tarver who started his career a bit late and over a virtually unknown Glen Johnson.

[TheGreatA]

Hopkins is a legend of the sport, not necessarily because of his great resume but for his backstory. The man started with literally nothing and ended up being a world champion.

I wouldn't put Hopkins among the top 5 greatest middleweights of all time, top 10 arguably. His resume, while good, is not a great one.
We shouldn't necessarily put all the blame on Hopkins for that because there weren't any great middleweights around when he was at his best (1997-2002) and the fight with Roy didn't happen because of two ego's.

He is one of the greatest 'old' fighters this sport has ever seen though.
43 years and still going.

[MELLY-MEL...]

The thing that bothers me the most is the people that talk about Popkins like he's a legend, no he just isn't. Not with that resume. Trinidad's wins are over opponents that are just too small to be fighting Popkins and the same goes with Oscar, I guess Popkins legitimate wins are over a shot Tarver who started his career a bit late and over a virtually unknown Glen Johnson.

bhop is a legend man. resume is not the only thing that makes you a legend or an atg! he is both, like it or not!

[MELLY-MEL...]

Hopkins is a legend of the sport, not necessarily because of his great resume but for his backstory. The man started with literally nothing and ended up being a world champion.

I wouldn't put Hopkins among the top 5 greatest middleweights of all time, top 10 arguably. His resume, while good, is not a great one.
We shouldn't necessarily put all the blame on Hopkins for that because there weren't any great middleweights around when he was at his best (1997-2002) and the fight with Roy didn't happen because of two ego's.

He is one of the greatest 'old' fighters this sport has ever seen though.
43 years and still going.

good post man!

[Karlos81]

Hopkins best wins, Oscar, Tito, wright.

Nuff said really.

The best two Middleweights he ever fought Jones and Taylor he lost too.

Joe will beat him up and get no credit, Hopkins is a great fighter but his best wins are over guys he has total size over.

[MELLY-MEL...]

Hopkins best wins, Oscar, Tito, wright.

Nuff said really.

The best two Middleweights he ever fought Jones and Taylor he lost too.

Joe will beat him up and get no credit, Hopkins is a great fighter but his best wins are over guys he has total size over.

only hating *******s will not give credit if he beats bhop. who gives a **** about ******s that know jack? it is time to stop the bull****! any reasonably clear thinking boxing fan already knows both men are great, and what they have done up till now is historic!

[Lucky13]

Hopkins best wins, Oscar, Tito, wright.

Nuff said really.

The best two Middleweights he ever fought Jones and Taylor he lost too.

Joe will beat him up and get no credit, Hopkins is a great fighter but his best wins are over guys he has total size over.

Yes that's what saying, people seem to ignore the weight and just look at the names, that's not right.

[xEDDIEx]

am i the only one that thinks this fight is pointless?