Just how great is james toney?

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  • sterling
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    #11
    Originally posted by Rane-Ex54
    Toney is an all time great in my book. Unfortuntly people will only recognize him for two things, his loss to RJJ & getting fat. But in his prime years he was one of the best
    i know thats what this post is about its such a shame people dont give him his props.

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    • MojoHands
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      #12
      In terms of overall ability and skill there aren't many who compare. Toney is a natural fighter who may be the last of a dying breed. You can't deny the man put in work with the best of his era. Unlike most boxers today, fighting was the man's business...not the other way around. Sadly, his days are done and I don't see him grabbing the HW belt. He deserves crazy respect and is without a doubt an all-time great. It's unfortunate that some may be placed above him because of promotional hype and mainstream attention.

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      • Nwahs !!
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        #13
        James Toney is the only man alive that has a legitimate claim that he was better than Roy Jones in his prime.

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        • Scott9945
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          #14
          Originally posted by Nwahs !!
          James Toney is the only man alive that has a legitimate claim that he was better than Roy Jones in his prime.
          Really? I had no idea that Ray Leonard and Floyd Mayweather were dead!

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          • Nwahs !!
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            #15
            Originally posted by Scott9945
            Really? I had no idea that Ray Leonard and Floyd Mayweather were dead!
            Neither Ray Leonard nor Floyd Mayweather have a legitimate claim towards being better than Roy Jones.

            Ray Leonard can legitimately say he beat better opposition, but he cannot say with confidence that he was ever better than Roy Jones.

            Floyd Mayweather? I'm not even going to respond to that. Both Jones, Toney and Leonard would make him look silly.

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            • Mr. Violence
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              #16
              Originally posted by sterling
              how great is james toney?
              Many people dont give him his props because hes a blown up heavywieght now but look at what hes achieved hes became a world champ in middlewieght,super middlewieght,light heavy and crusier then he became heavywieght champ but lost the belt cause he used steroids.
              Yes he is one of my favourite fighters because of his style hes influenced alot of people to use the shoulder roll i think he made it popular when he started using it.
              How great do u think james toney is? if he becomes heavywieght champ would u consider him a atg?
              Heres a few of his best bouts:

              James only given 1 round to finish the fight shows his will to retain his belt.

              Beats jirov the Arturo Gatti of the cruiserwieght division toney traded blows and won.

              behind on the scorecards toney knocks out nunn to get his belt.
              In my opinion theres too many fighters that go over looked and at the moment people over look james toney because of his present state but theres stil time for him to turn it around dont u agree?


              He is not great at all. He used steroids.

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              • Nwahs !!
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                #17
                Originally posted by Mr. Violence
                He is not great at all. He used steroids.
                Ironic coming from a submission specialist.

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                  #18
                  Roy Jones beat James Toney in his prime. Ray Leonard beat many in his prime.
                  Floyd Mayweather is in his prime.
                  As good as Toney is, he has never ever been better than Ray Leonard or Floyd.
                  SRL can say whatever the hell he wants to.
                  And I can't claim to understand the last sentence you wrote. Do you want to do a what if Jones fought Leonard type thing...?????

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                  • flat1985
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Nwahs !!
                    Neither Ray Leonard nor Floyd Mayweather have a legitimate claim towards being better than Roy Jones.

                    Ray Leonard can legitimately say he beat better opposition, but he cannot say with confidence that he was ever better than Roy Jones.

                    Floyd Mayweather? I'm not even going to respond to that. Both Jones, Toney and Leonard would make him look silly.
                    LOL Yeah okay....

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                    • Scott9945
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Nwahs !!
                      Neither Ray Leonard nor Floyd Mayweather have a legitimate claim towards being better than Roy Jones.

                      Ray Leonard can legitimately say he beat better opposition, but he cannot say with confidence that he was ever better than Roy Jones.

                      Floyd Mayweather? I'm not even going to respond to that. Both Jones, Toney and Leonard would make him look silly.
                      Would this be the same James Toney who was lucky to get a decision over Dave Tiberi? The same James Toney who lost to Drake Thadzi and twice to Montell Griffin? I never see Mayweather losing or even struggling against fighters of that caliber. Toney was a top fighter, but lets not fall victim to wild exaggeration.

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