Replay: Cortez still ******

[BmoreBrawler]

Its irrelevant whether it landed. If Mike Tyson couldn't get his teeth firmly on Holyfield's ear should he have been able to continue? If someone brings a bat into the ring, but misses with his swing, is it not illegal? Pushing someone thru the ropes then trying to land to the back of their head is illegal and was correctly punished.

he didnt push him through the ropes.

[ThaHorseman]

fiction, thats not the elbowing I'm talking about. I'm talking about Hatton putting on pressure(not clinching), and Floyd raking him with elbows or committing the less serious yet still illegal penalty of pushing off with the palm or forearm.

I'm not sure how much boxing you watch, but when one fighter rushes in its very common that the fighters clash heads, catch elbows, etc. We could also start pointing out how many times Hatton put his left hand (open handed) in Mayweather's face and tried to followed up with a right hand. We could start to talk about Hatton's constant holding and hitting. We could discuss when Hatton tried to bend the **** out of Floyd's arm. Its funny how everyone is bitching about everything Floyd did, yet nothing about how dirty Hatton was fighting.

[Mozza]

Its irrelevant whether it landed. If Mike Tyson couldn't get his teeth firmly on Holyfield's ear should he have been able to continue? If someone brings a bat into the ring, but misses with his swing, is it not illegal? Pushing someone thru the ropes then trying to land to the back of their head is illegal and was correctly punished.

Well you can go down the zero tolerance, letter of the law avenue if you want but we both know that boxing would be very different if we did. You can't deduct a point for something that nearly happened and the Minority Report style refereeing is not for me.

The examples you have used are a bit absurd really. There is a slight difference between throwing a punch, which you have to remember is happening in the context of a fast paced fight, and bringing a baseball bat to the ring or biting off an opponents eat.

[Mike_Dee]

what an awesome fight, what a great, great show!

[Mozza]

I'm not sure how much boxing you watch, but when one fighter rushes in its very common that the fighters clash heads, catch elbows, etc. We could also start pointing out how many times Hatton put his left hand (open handed) in Mayweather's face and tried to followed up with a right hand. We could start to talk about Hatton's constant holding and hitting. We could discuss when Hatton tried to bend the **** out of Floyd's arm. Its funny how everyone is bitching about everything Floyd did, yet nothing about how dirty Hatton was fighting.

We can discuss that if you want. Hatton was doing some things which were not being punished that probably should have been given the mood Cortez was in. All this does is further highlight the inconsistency of his performance.

[ThaHorseman]

he didnt push him through the ropes.

His left glove wasn't pushing Floyd's head???? His right glove wasn't on Floyd's back (before he pulled back to punch)????? His body wasn't pressed up against Floyd's??????

[ThaHorseman]

Well you can go down the zero tolerance, letter of the law avenue if you want but we both know that boxing would be very different if we did. You can't deduct a point for something that nearly happened and the Minority Report style refereeing is not for me.

The examples you have used are a bit absurd really. There is a slight difference between throwing a punch, which you have to remember is happening in the context of a fast paced fight, and bringing a baseball bat to the ring or biting off an opponents eat.

But there is a zero tolerance stance on things of that nature. That is the point. The other fouls by BOTH fighters were warned, but allowed because it was a rough fight. When Hatton made an obvious attempt at fouling, it was crossing the line between a rough fight and a dirty fight.

[Mozza]

But there is a zero tolerance stance on things of that nature. That is the point. The other fouls by BOTH fighters were warned, but allowed because it was a rough fight. When Hatton made an obvious attempt at fouling, it was crossing the line between a rough fight and a dirty fight.

There were other instances of punches to the back of the head by both men that went unpunished. The main difference between those and the one that resulted in the point deduction was that offensive punch didn't actually land.

[ThaHorseman]

There were other instances of punches to the back of the head by both men that went unpunished. The main difference between those and the one that resulted in the point deduction was that offensive punch didn't actually land.

No, the difference between those and the one that resulted in the point being taken was that none of the others came when one fighter was falling thru the ropes.

[Mozza]

No, the difference between those and the one that resulted in the point being taken was that none of the others came when one fighter was falling thru the ropes.

But it is otherwise okay to punch on the back of the head?