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  • Wiley Hyena
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    #21
    Originally posted by RunW/Knives
    You and I both know, that if Hatton did somehow win last Saturday's fight.......there wouldn't have been the 100 + threads about Cortez on this forum that exist................now.
    That depends. If Hatton would have won like he did against Tszyu, I guarantee you I would be critical. But, we're not talking about a fine line here. Undue influence by a referee is a flagrant thing.

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    • Parody
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      #22
      Originally posted by RunW/Knives
      You and I both know, that if Hatton did somehow win last Saturday's fight.......there wouldn't have been the 100 + threads about Cortez on this forum that exist................now.
      If it was the other way around and Hatton won by a 10th round TKO, I guarantee there would'nt have been any threads about Joe Cortez...Fact of the matter is Hatton told the media how Happy he is that Cortez is the ref (Who refed his fight with Castillo as well). Cortez warned both fighters and deducted a point of hatton AFTER a warning, he also said in the dressing room for Intentional fouls he will deduct a point WITHOUT a warning.

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      • Mozza
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        #23
        Originally posted by ThaHorseman
        I'm not sure if you noticed (and you probably wouldn't admit it anyways), but Floyd's elbow seemed to go up after Hatton's arm somehow ended up around his neck. If your opponent is putting one arm around your neck and hitting you with the other (which is illegal) I wouldn't think his fans would be such bitches about the forearm/elbow pushing him away. Both fighters fought a "rugged" style, both were warned and only one committed a blatant, malicious foul.
        I have no problem with fighters fouling, as Hatton said it's not a tickling contest but what I do have a problem with is consistency from referees and sadly Cortez showed none.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Mozza
          I have no problem with fighters fouling, as Hatton said it's not a tickling contest but what I do have a problem with is consistency from referees and sadly Cortez showed none.
          Tell that to Dave Parris mate...

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            #25
            Originally posted by Parody
            Tell that to Dave Parris mate...
            Bad refereeing from one referee does not excuse the performance of another.

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            • ThaHorseman
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              #26
              Originally posted by Mozza
              I have no problem with fighters fouling, as Hatton said it's not a tickling contest but what I do have a problem with is consistency from referees and sadly Cortez showed none.
              As I said, there were warnings for both fighters and there wouldn't have been a point taken if Hatton hadn't committed the foul. Where was the inconsistency?

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                #27
                Originally posted by Mozza
                Bad refereeing from one referee does not excuse the performance of another.
                This is true. One could say Hatton got what he deserved after the crime that was committed against Tszyu in Britain. But, I'm sorry....the sport deserves more. When a ref flagrantly unduly influences a fight, they should never work again for the benefit of the sport.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by ThaHorseman
                  As I said, there were warnings for both fighters and there wouldn't have been a point taken if Hatton hadn't committed the foul. Where was the inconsistency?
                  He didn't commit a foul. Cortez was issuing warnings when nothing was happening. He was blaming Hatton for things Mayweather was doing and vice versa. Some of it was quite unbelievable and I think generally he ruined the fight a bit by not allowing it flow and it was lucky that Pretty Boy Floyd turned on the style from the eighth round onwards to make it a worthwhile PPV.

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                  • ThaHorseman
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Mozza
                    He didn't commit a foul. Cortez was issuing warnings when nothing was happening. He was blaming Hatton for things Mayweather was doing and vice versa. Some of it was quite unbelievable and I think generally he ruined the fight a bit by not allowing it flow and it was lucky that Pretty Boy Floyd turned on the style from the eighth round onwards to make it a worthwhile PPV.
                    Do you really believe that Hatton shouldn't have had a point taken away?

                    I asked for inconsistencies and you pointed out that both fighters were being treated the same.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Mozza
                      He didn't commit a foul. Cortez was issuing warnings when nothing was happening. He was blaming Hatton for things Mayweather was doing and vice versa. Some of it was quite unbelievable and I think generally he ruined the fight a bit by not allowing it flow and it was lucky that Pretty Boy Floyd turned on the style from the eighth round onwards to make it a worthwhile PPV.
                      Yes, indeed. Thru round 6, it really was the Joe Cortez show. Elbow to elbow...break. Elbow to elbow...break. It went on and on. Shoot, early on Floyd hit Hatton in the back of the head...no warning. Then, round 6, Hatton hits the ropes and grazes the back of Floyd's head......a point deducted.

                      Cortez rode Hatton until he was wet, then let Floyd take over.

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