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  • Originally posted by NachoMan View Post
    I read the other posts. I'll repeat my statement that ODLH vs. ME would sell a million PPV buys, so it says nothing to declare that Cotto v. Oscar would do a million sales. I think that it's hard to argue Floyd's exposure during the Oscar fight (and in the Hatton fight) has raised his marketability to a whole different level. Nobody in the sport approaches ODLH's marketability because he transcends the sport like nobody since Tyson. Now, Floyd is nowhere there yet, but he is much more of a cross-over star than Cotto is at the moment, primarily because of HBO and 24/7. Cotto is a monster draw...to latinos and real boxing fans only. In order to generate the 1 million + PPV buys, you have to appeal to a larger segment than that; you have to grab the atttention of the general sports fan.
    DLH v Mayorga did less than 1 million ppv buys.
    There goes your theory.

    Oscar has only been over the 1 million mark twice his career, once against Tito, once against Floyd.

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    • The biggest mistake Maywether could make is not to fight these others guys in the division. It's obvious he is to young to retire and he just got into the big time limelight because of his fight with Oscar. If he doesn't fight Cotta and Paul Williams and some of the other guys in the division he will end up like Roy Jones ........ Roy fought everybody "But" the other Champions of his era and after he started getting knocked out everyone started saying he never fought anybody and that deminished he legacy "A WHOLE LOT" no longer was he considered as possibly the greatest fighter of all time but just a great "Athelete" who fought limited competition in his career. Mayweather is on the same path if he doesn't start fighting some real competition he hasn't had any dangerous fights throughout his career and now when his time comes to grasp greatness he's running from it just like Roy did. Now at the age of 38 or 39 Roy is still trying to fight becasue he knows that he ****ed up by not fighting the best in his prime. There is no shame in losing to other great fighters and champions but when you get knocked out or lose to C+ fighters that does way more damage to a fighters accomplishments than anything else. If Roy could go back and fight some of those other champions in his prime I bet he would because all he is trying to do now is what we call damage control he knows he will be remembered as an overated glass jaw champion because his resume doesn't say anything otherwise. So if Floyyd doesn't start fighting these other champions then he may suffer a similar fate. The WW division is the most competitive division in boxing......... and he is scared to lose but there's nothing wrong with that.
      Last edited by HOLD UP; 12-10-2007, 02:43 PM.

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      • Originally posted by uclanemesis View Post
        Zero fact? When did Mayweather ever break 1 million PPV's before they put him in with fighters who draw huge PPV numbers? NEVER! I already said he's unbeatable, what more do you want?
        You just said that Floyd has barley any fans and the only reason people watch him is to see him get beat, which is not true.

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        • Originally posted by uclanemesis View Post
          Highly unlikely. That's the winning formula: Put a hated unbeatable Mayweather against a hungry and strong warrior with a huge fanbase. I would rather not see this fight happen cuz I don't want "Money" Mayweather to keep cashing in on that style of boxing.
          I don't really feel like breaking down a whole book on why I think Floyd will lose but I will say this, Cotto isn't no Ricky Hatton, with less fights he's faced BETTER opposition and beat them all, he ain't such a bull who will let floyd play matador, Ricky played right into Floyd's hands and it was an amazing display by Floyd, grade A ****, he beat Ricky with his own game then with Floyd's game, the dude is a master Boxer but so is Cotto, Cotto knows how to do both.. see Cotto wont charge Floyd, he will be aggressive when he's throwing but patient when he's not he wont just be charging and blinded by the sight of just hurting Floyd, he will break him down and if anything he will win the rounds, he will pull off the rounds and land in combos, on top of being the aggressor and having such a superb jab Floyd will have trouble..

          Floyd will just have trouble penetrating the guard of someone who's only really vulnerable to 1 punch and when hit with that punch if he isn't rocked he comes back with 2 or 3, Cotto is really just weak to the straight right hand, Floyd has a picture worthy right hand but Cotto is smart and knows that, Floyd will land it a few times and the fight will be close but for the most part I see Cotto getting the best out of the exchanges, he will force the fight and it will work, Floyd has all the tools to beat Cotto but Cotto also has all the tools to beat Floyd and I just think that it will take more than speed to confuse Miguel, it will take more than wit to do it, it's going to take A Lot of power, power that I don't think Floyd has to knock Cotto out, he will have to stop Miguel and I don't see a stoppage on either end..

          Floyd can box VERY well but Miguel has enough skills of his own to fend off Floyd, he can go punch for punch whether it's Cotto's jab to Floyd's straight or likewise, I think it will be a test of will and seeing how he lost many rounds against Ricky early on I saw him open for the same kind of loss early in the Cotto fight only it wont change due to Cotto's unfathomable game plan, that dude has a plan for each letter of the alphabet so he can adapt to Floyd just as well as Floyd can adapt to him.. it wont be an obliteration, nobody will get destroyed here, it will be a beautiful Boxing match where we see a clear winner and a clear loser, I don't think there will be any disputes I just think Cotto even though is less slicker he is more mentally fit to go up against Floyd's confusing style, just an opinion but one I stand by, I don't see Miguel Cotto losing to Floyd Mayweather.. 100

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          • Originally posted by Easy-E View Post
            DLH v Mayorga did less than 1 million ppv buys.
            There goes your theory.

            Oscar has only been over the 1 million mark twice his career, once against Tito, once against Floyd.

            how many of his PPV did, 24/7?

            thank you

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            • Originally posted by c'monmang' View Post
              how many of his PPV did, 24/7?

              thank you
              None, because they didnt have Floyd Mayweather, who came up with the idea.
              Are you retarted?!?

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              • Originally posted by NachoMan View Post
                I read the other posts. I'll repeat my statement that ODLH vs. ME would sell a million PPV buys, so it says nothing to declare that Cotto v. Oscar would do a million sales. I think that it's hard to argue that Floyd's exposure during the Oscar fight (and in the Hatton fight) has raised his marketability to a whole different level than what it was pre-ODLH. Nobody in the sport approaches ODLH's marketability because he transcends the sport like nobody since Tyson. Now, Floyd is nowhere near ODLH level, but he is much more of a cross-over star than Cotto is at the moment, primarily because of HBO and 24/7. Cotto is a monster draw...to latinos and real boxing fans only. In order to generate the 1 million + PPV buys, you have to appeal to a larger segment than that; you have to grab the atttention of the general sports fan.
                very logical post..REALLY supports your argument there Mr Sinclair

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                • Originally posted by Easy-E View Post
                  You just said that Floyd has barley any fans and the only reason people watch him is to see him get beat, which is not true.
                  I don't know if it was you or whoever said the hip hop community supports him. That is an ignorant ass statement. Hip hop is not about flashy **** like Floyd, but that's a whole other argument. Anyway, I didn't say people buy the fight ONLY to watch HIM get beat. I said people buy the fight to see THEIR FIGHTER try and beat him. Very different things.

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                  • Originally posted by Easy-E View Post
                    DLH v Mayorga did less than 1 million ppv buys.
                    There goes your theory.

                    Oscar has only been over the 1 million mark twice his career, once against Tito, once against Floyd.
                    My bad, you're right, it was something around 950,000 buys.

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                    • Originally posted by Easy-E View Post
                      None, because they didny have Floyd Mayweather, who came up with the idea.
                      Are you retarted?!?

                      i rest my case. hugger

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