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  • Ray*
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    #121
    Team Hatton chose the referee while Mayweather chose a 22 foot ring, If the fight had gone to the scorecards then we can talk but it didnt..Both fighters still did alot of inside fighting with PBF getting the better of it.

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    • Jim Jeffries
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      #122
      Originally posted by shawn_
      Because its true right? What Ricky does is no different than neutralizing a left hook with a strait right hand. He does not hold. And by the way, all of this "HOLDING" he does, is done with his right hand, the hand he miraculously uses to great effect on the inside via uppercuts. Something not possible while holding. His opponents can free their limbs and time they want to, all Ricky does is make it impossible to throw any sort of meaningful punches with the arm he has control of.
      I don't know any very good or great fighter that doesn't hold their opponents power arm up against their body in a clinch.

      I thought Mayweather looked good tonight and he was impressive with the stoppage and showed a lot of class after the fight.

      however

      In the first half of the fight, Mayweather was holding just as much, if not more, than Hatton was. The blatant elbowing to the throat, and pushing off with the elbow to the ribs was rediculous, the ref warned him twice early, but when he warned him in the corner, Roger told him "what about the holding?" After that he didn't give any more verbal warnings, or take away points, as he should have. In rd 3, Floyd hit Ricky cleanly on the break. The point deduction in the 6th was a bit rediculous, with Ricky not even landing on Floyd, instead hitting the rope, but that was one hell of a flop job by Floyd to warrant the deduction. Then, at the end of 7 or 8, Floyd hits Ricky in the back of the head, no deduction.

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      • Mozza
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        #123
        Originally posted by gavinz1970
        I don't know any very good or great fighter that doesn't hold their opponents power arm up against their body in a clinch.

        I thought Mayweather looked good tonight and he was impressive with the stoppage and showed a lot of class after the fight.

        however

        In the first half of the fight, Mayweather was holding just as much, if not more, than Hatton was. The blatant elbowing to the throat, and pushing off with the elbow to the ribs was rediculous, the ref warned him twice early, but when he warned him in the corner, Roger told him "what about the holding?" After that he didn't give any more verbal warnings, or take away points, as he should have. In rd 3, Floyd hit Ricky cleanly on the break. The point deduction in the 6th was a bit rediculous, with Ricky not even landing on Floyd, instead hitting the rope, but that was one hell of a flop job by Floyd to warrant the deduction. Then, at the end of 7 or 8, Floyd hits Ricky in the back of the head, no deduction.
        Much more. Mayweather was looking for the clinch which was actually a pretty smart move but sadly Cortez swallowed every single time.

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        • shawn_
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          #124
          Originally posted by Mozza
          Much more. Mayweather was looking for the clinch which was actually a pretty smart move but sadly Cortez swallowed every single time.
          Im gonna post up my fight analysis from a few months back here soon, just so I can gloat.

          I called this fight perfectly. Floyd backing up to the ropes, popping Ricky with a strait right, then holding until the ref broke them, and repeat.

          I really didn't expect the ref to break them so quick though. Floyd must have pissed his pants when Joe Cortez was doing exactly what he wanted him to do.

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          • Mozza
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            #125
            Originally posted by shawn_
            Im gonna post up my fight analysis from a few months back here soon, just so I can gloat.

            I called this fight perfectly. Floyd backing up to the ropes, popping Ricky with a strait right, then holding until the ref broke them, and repeat.

            I really didn't expect the ref to break them so quick though. Floyd must have pissed his pants when Joe Cortez was doing exactly what he wanted him to do.
            Cortez was eating out Mayweather's palm.

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            • Jim Jeffries
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              #126
              Originally posted by Mozza
              Much more. Mayweather was looking for the clinch which was actually a pretty smart move but sadly Cortez swallowed every single time.
              With all the warnings to Ricky for clinching and none to Floyd. With all the elbows to the ribs and throat and no point deductions to Floyd. Then finally with the point deduction for a punch that didn't even land on Floyd's flop through the ropes, I think Ricky was demoralized, realized that there was no chance now to win on points, and he just blindly went for the knockout.

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              • Motofan
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                #127
                I said (as well as many others did) that if Cortez didnt let Ricky fight his rough and mugging style a fight, then he would have ZERO chance of beating Floyd. Once he couldnt fight rough he was basically a sitting duck for Floyd.

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                • Marduke
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                  #128
                  Floyd held his forearm and elbow high, I noticed that too, but stop acting like he was jamming his elbow into Hatton's throat making him unable to breath.

                  I was really rooting for Hatton, but now you guys are just making excuses.

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                    #129
                    Originally posted by gavinz1970
                    With all the warnings to Ricky for clinching and none to Floyd. With all the elbows to the ribs and throat and no point deductions to Floyd. Then finally with the point deduction for a punch that didn't even land on Floyd's flop through the ropes, I think Ricky was demoralized, realized that there was no chance now to win on points, and he just blindly went for the knockout.
                    I agree. Cortez was deplorable. It was his big chance to save American boxing from the Brits. And, the judges were obviously in the tank. Hatton had to have a KO to win the fight. It's just that simple. I misjudged what appears to be nationalistic influences. I actually believed the sport of boxing would emerge the winner in this fight. I was wrong.

                    On the flip side, I will credit Floyd for standing in. It made for a good fight, in spite of it all. He did not "run." And, regarding what Hatton was allowed to get away with in Britain against Kostya Tszyu (a virtual crime), one can say "what goes around, comes around." And it came around in this fight. From this perspective, it can be justly said that Hatton got what he deserved. The only problem is that Floyd didn't get what he deserved.

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                    • cuzfozzy
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                      #130
                      Motofan is right ... Cortez did not let Hatton fight his fight
                      especially the first few rounds he kept breaking them ...
                      I would like to see Tszyu Hatton II with Cortez as Ref

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