Hopkins running from Calzaghe again

[Wiley Hyena]

mate you were a gonna ages ago with your Hopkins is ducking calzaghe by making him a public offer, and asking for a share of the money that reflect the fact he is the bigger name and beltholder.

But Calzaghe isnt ducking jones for taking less money to fight a lesser name.

By your own logic (not mine)

What must calzaghe be doing in this case?

Buy brain traning on the DS, then come back to me with the answer.

I think you're really a dim wit to suggest that Calzaghe should have fought Jones rather than Kessler. That's what I think.

And, you're just plain wrong to suggest that at this time Hopkins is a greater draw than Calzaghe. I've got news for you...he isn't.

edit: OWNED

[Unseen]

mate you were a gonna ages ago with your Hopkins is ducking calzaghe by making him a public offer, and asking for a share of the money that reflect the fact he is the bigger name and beltholder.

But Calzaghe isnt ducking jones for taking less money to fight a lesser name.

By your own logic (not mine)

What must calzaghe be doing in this case?

Buy brain traning on the DS, then come back to me with the answer.

**** i just owned you so badly that you gotta bring socar delhoya into it. why does everyone gotta bring oscar into it when they get owned?


50/50

look at who hopkins has beaten that is even his size. go and check it out and then tell me that his resume is so much better than joe's. or that hiss tyle will attract people from now. i mean even hard core boxing fans wouldnt say yeah winky and him was great.

his resume is better than joe's. perhaps much better. it's not great. hopkins last fight sold around 10k people.


50/50 sounds fair. hopkins is old. he fights once a eyar now. he is slow. he punches how many?

okay come abck with his resume and tell me why he is so special.

[Technical_Skill]

okay well the figures are 7 million pounds made from the gate. already confirmed.

which equates to 14 million dollars or so.

200k people subscribed to sentanta due to joe and kessler. at 10 pounds a pop that makes it 2 million pounds generated. which is 4 million dollars.

you with me? so the total let's say 18 million dollars from the gate and sentanta.

200k ppv at 50 dollars (25 pounds) is 10 million dollars. or 5 million pounds.

i said the average seat for cal is about 120 pounds. starting from 60 quid which i saw onlnie up to 250 pounds.

according to kessler the fight was shown in 70 countries. how much do you think that would have made? thank you. also the bbc showed joe vs kessler. thank you.

Ermm what the **** is this, first of all 200K, Plus gate money in america (which means **** all) plus the additional money throw in by the venue

Dude the casinos alone throw millions at the event just to have it staged there so people can spend the weekend spending money.

But again, you talk ****e.

Which fight made more money.

Mayweather de la hoya (1.2 million ppv buys)

Or Calzaghe kessler?

Because there is your answer, Mayweather made more money for that fight, than the entire 50,000 gate money your talking about above. Thats not including PPV money and sponsorship.

[col Blake]

people in Wales will pay to see Joe take a piss, theres nothing else to do other sheep, hopkins has to compete against all the other big names in the states, joe the big fish in a small pond.

[Technical_Skill]

I think you're really a dim wit to suggest that Calzaghe should have fought Jones rather than Kessler. That's what I think.

And, you're just plain wrong to suggest that at this time Hopkins is a greater draw than Calzaghe. I've got news for you...he isn't.

edit: OWNED

Are you thick, ****** or both?

Look at the part when i said "by your own logic, not mine" (meaning, im talking about what you are implying)

The re-read, and feel ******.

Then slap yourself

[Wiley Hyena]

Are you thick, ****** or both?

Look at the part when i said "by your own logic, not mine" (meaning, im talking about what you are implying)

The re-read, and feel ******.

Then slap yourself

Go run along and play now. It's obvious you cannot even see where you were baited, hooked, gutted, and fried.

[Unseen]

Ermm what the **** is this, first of all 200K, Plus gate money in america (which means **** all) plus the additional money throw in by the venue

Dude the casinos alone throw millions at the event just to have it staged there so people can spend the weekend spending money.

But again, you talk ****e.

Which fight made more money.

Mayweather de la hoya (1.2 million ppv buys)

Or Calzaghe kessler?

Because there is your answer, Mayweather made more money for that fight, than the entire 50,000 gate money your talking about above. Thats not including PPV money and sponsorship.

am i talking about floyld? i am talking about the point you said hopkins is the bigger anme and pulled 200k ppv.

i dont give a **** about flyold. im talking about the 200k ppv that you said hopkins did.

70 countries had this fight. 70... joe and kessler was a big fight.

[ßringer]

I love the way Calzaghe's fans are building him up as some sort of god amongst men. Just because he beat an overhyped Lacy and an overrated Kessler, all of a sudden he's the greatest. You can find guys on Hopkins record equal to Lacy or Kessler in either Howard Eastman, Robert Allan or Keith Holmes.

The fact of the matter is that the general boxing audience still barely knows Calzaghe, prior to the Lacy fight, nobody knew who the hell he was. Then he gained a tad bit of fame worldwide with that performance, then he barely survived Bika, he then went on to get a horrible bull**** stoppage against Manfredo, a guy from "The Contender". Then he just now beat Kessler.

All good wins but it doesn't take away form the fact that most of the Worldwide boxing audience is just now learning how to pronounce Calzaghe's last name. While Hopkins has been a mainstay in the worldwide equation for the better part of over 10 years.

I can understand liking Joe and supporting him but you guys are seriously cum-drunk. How the hell is Calzaghe entitled to any advantage over Hopkins when it will be Hops' title on the line, Calzaghe's biggest pay day to date, and Hopkins who has the better record overall and more established name.

If Joe is really interested in fighting the best he'll concede to Hopkins' demands, because that's what Hopkins has earned over the last decade.

I'm not going to go tit-for-tat with anybody here because I have neither the energy nor patience for it today, but I'll leave you all with this....

If Joe Calzaghe wants to cement his legacy as one of the best ever, he needs to start taking some risk, something he's never done in his career thus far aside from Kessler. If he wants people to look back on his career in a positive light many years from now, now is the time to step up. Take the pay cut, go to America and beat Hopkins at his own game. That would be saying something, otherwise take your negotiations off the table and go fight another bum somewhere in Wales infront of 50,000 brainwashed fans and be happy with that.

[Technical_Skill]

Go run along and play now. It's obvious you cannot even see where you were baited, hooked, gutted, and fried.

Only in your own mind idiot, i mean, even now, your still trying to pretend Calzaghe is a bigger draw then Hopkins, which is ****ing rediculous, when b hop is the bigger name, has made more money.

You must know something HBO dont, cos if calzaghe was a bigger draw than Hopkins, why the **** would they make him free to air every single time, when he could be selling all these PPV'S

Are you saying HBO are deliberatley losing money?

Idiot.

[Unseen]

You serious, calzaghe aint worth 50/50 against hopkins, hopkins is proven PPV and calzaghe is free to air, bernard would give joe by far his biggest payday, and is the bigger name in boxing. 60/40 b-hop is a fair split.

I dont wanna hear from anyone about 50,000 calzaghe fans buying tickets this weekend, thats small time cash compared to even a mediorce 200,000 pay per view sales in my estimation.

so 50k seats is small time cash compared to 200k ppv in your estimation?

please bring floyld and oscar into it. pleaseeeeee.

your estimation was wrong. agree? do you agree punk? do ya?