Hatton: "I'm Alot More Clever Than People Think"

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  • SkillspayBills
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    #131
    Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
    I believe Miguel Angel Gonzales was "elite" my friend. Held the WBC LW for years. He was a great Mexican champ. I'm afraid your age is showing.
    You are showing your lack of the english language. There is a difference between a Good fighter and an ELITE fighter.

    Good fighter - Luiz Collazo (former champ and a pretty good record)
    ELITE fighter - Shane Mosley ( former champ, beaten other ELITE fighters)

    See the difference Coyote?

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    • DIOS DOMINICANO
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      #132
      Originally posted by Tony628


      just because he wasn't hyped by hbo for haveing the "two characteristics" doesnt mean he wasnt any good.
      "any good" = "elite"

      ???????????????????

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        #133
        Originally posted by kayjay
        How many of these guys would you pick to beat JC?

        Me? -->

        Pavlik? No way
        Taylor? Easy 120-103 win
        Johnson? Never
        Hopkins? 60/40 to Joe
        Tarver? never
        Prime Jones? 80/20 to Roy
        Now KJ you know that isn't the case. This is like saying Floyd would beat all the other welter's and clean out the division if he faced them all. The problem with that is..............he hasn't yet and neither has JC.

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        • DIOS DOMINICANO
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          #134
          Originally posted by kayjay
          How many of these guys would you pick to beat JC?

          Me? -->

          Pavlik? No way
          Taylor? Easy 120-103 win
          Johnson? Never
          Hopkins? 60/40 to Joe
          Tarver? never
          Prime Jones? 80/20 to Roy
          kayjay.

          You know that fights are not won on paper. So we won't engage in that.

          Greatness is earned in the ring.

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          • Wiley Hyena
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            #135
            Originally posted by skilspaydabills
            You are showing your lack of the english language. There is a difference between a Good fighter and an ELITE fighter.

            Good fighter - Luiz Collazo (former champ and a pretty good record)
            ELITE fighter - Shane Mosley ( former champ, beaten other ELITE fighters)

            See the difference Coyote?
            Yeah...I see the difference. Thanks for the instruction. Again, I believe Gonzales in 97 was elite. He held the WBC LW title since 92, if I recall.
            But, you can do your own research...I'm going off memory.

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            • Maxy
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              #136
              Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
              kayjay.

              You know that fights are not won on paper. So we won't engage in that.

              Greatness is earned in the ring.
              Has Floyd earned greatness in your opinion?

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              • DIOS DOMINICANO
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                #137
                Originally posted by Maxy
                Has Floyd earned greatness in your opinion?
                EarnING.

                * Beat the best at 130
                * Beat the best at 135
                * Fighting the best at 140 on Dec 8th
                * Beat 'top 5' guys at 147
                * Beat 'top 3' guy at 154
                Last edited by DIOS DOMINICANO; 10-27-2007, 04:28 PM.

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                  #138
                  Originally posted by vladimir303
                  The truth is that Hatton with his natural frame should be fighting at middleweight in order to live a healthy life without having to drain himself during every Training Camp. The reality is that he won't because he knows that with his size and his fighting style he would get his ass tore up by a mediocre fighter.

                  Tyson for example at 5'11 was a very small heavyweight but his natural frame was meant for the heavyweight division. Luckly for him he developed a style and had the power to go along with it to be very effective against much much bigger guys. Hatton at 5'6 is stuck at 140lb. Once he starts having trouble making that weight, playtime is over for the Hitman.

                  If he was really smart he would be a gym rat to maximize his chances of staying at that weight and becoming a great jr.welterweight the way Calzaghe is a great Super-middleweight of his time BUT not.


                  HATTON IS NOT AS SMART AS HE PUTS ON TO BE.

                  Don't mistake ******ity for a lack of discipline. You can be a genius and still be undisciplined!

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                  • Vladimir303
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                    #139
                    Originally posted by Easton Assassin
                    Don't mistake ******ity for a lack of discipline. You can be a genius and still be undisciplined!
                    Maybe James Toney but nobody else. And I wouldn't use the term genius either.

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                      #140
                      Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
                      I say that....

                      Hatton has had 40+ fights at 140+
                      Floyd has had 7 or 8 at 140+

                      Hatton is typically 154 (lean/ripped) in the ring. and has been close to 160.
                      Floyd has never been heavier than 148 in the ring.

                      At 21 years old, Hatton was a jr. welterweight.
                      At 21 years old, Floyd was a featherweight.

                      Between fights, Hatton is 170 lbs.
                      Between fights, Floyd is 150 lbs.

                      Hatton relies on his strength/physicality.
                      Floyd relies on his movement/speed.

                      Graham and Hatton have said that Floyd has "fine features": small wrists, hands, etc.

                      Hatton's head appears to be 78.2% bigger than Floyd's.

                      So, for those reasons, I say that Hatton is the "bigger" man.


                      Im talking about right now and Im going purely off thier last fights , Hatton was 149 and Floyd was 148 stepping in .

                      The answer is in your signature ,,, Hatton has a bigger head

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