Hatton v. Tszyu...the truth

[Wiley Hyena]

Rodbarker quote: "the great KT ran from a journeyman and then he quit on his stool , this you cannot deny and it has tarnished his legacy forever !"


You've just proven my point....that you're biased when it comes to Tszyu. Why would I want to respond to something as malicious as that? There's no dealing with you, Rod. You hate Tszyu and will look for anything to run him down. That's what you do. But, in spite of what you think, he will be going into the Hall of Fame, and he is generally considered one of the great 140s of modern times.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

I didn't understand that Dios. Come again?

Refer to post # 67.

I quoted you, but substituted "Floyd" for "Tszyu".

So, anybody who keeps bringing up Castillo 1 would be biased. According to you. Right?

[WLAD OWNS]

KT was not in the best shape of his life , get real he was 36 coming from injurys that required surgery he had spoke of retiring a year earlier , what are you quoting media hype ,, I saw him spar before leaving and he was not at his best , Soliman spared a lot with KT and said he was slipping alot ,,, your never going to hear this stuff from the media selling the fight but you hear and see it in the actual gyms ,,, thats the bull**** here because people are trying to make KT the size of ten men to make the win better than it really was , but the same people will say Oscar was faded , Oscar and KT were about the same level when Hatton and Floyd beat them the plus for Floyd win was the weight difference , could Hatton give KT a stone and win .

Kostya Tszyu is a hardened Russian Australian

DLH is a gay,tutu wearin promoter

You tell me who the tougher opponent was

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

He won't, this is Hatton's fight. I have never seen him more confident,motivated and pumped up for a fight before.

Hatton has too much heart for Mayweather and his amazing will and determination along with his power,speed,pressure,footwork and excellent body punching will win him this fight.

Floyd, like the coward he is, will be running right from the opening bell.

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[ThaHorseman]

Wiley, you keep using the same useless arguments.

1. Kostya was still a P4P fighter at the time he fought Hatton... After beating Zab (which his only admirable win in the last 5 years of his career), he beat Ben Tackie, Jesse James Leija and Sharmba Mitchell. Along with a few shoulder surgeries. Can you honestly tell me that he proved from Zab to Hatton that he belonged among the elite fighters? How was there any way to know that?
2. He still had a lot left in the tank. ... Really? He quit on his stool in a close fight with Hatton and never fought again. What more needs to be said?
3. Ask Miguel Angel Gonzales... Why not ask one of the fighters that Oscar beat more convincingly? Why ask the ONE who Kostya KO'd sooner? Perhaps its you that is biased, not others who are trying to use reason.

I've said numerous times that I consider Kostya Tszyu to be one of the best to lace them up at 140. However, at the end of his career, he hadn't proven to still have that greatness after not having any great victories and multiple surgeries. Anything you say about him being great at age 36 is merely your opinion, but him quiting on his stool and never fighting again is a fact. And those facts lean towards him not having that greatness that he had earlier in his career.

[RodBarker]

Rodbarker quote: "the great KT ran from a journeyman and then he quit on his stool , this you cannot deny and it has tarnished his legacy forever !"


You've just proven my point....that you're biased when it comes to Tszyu. Why would I want to respond to something as malicious as that? There's no dealing with you, Rod. You hate Tszyu and will look for anything to run him down. That's what you do. But, in spite of what you think, he will be going into the Hall of Fame, and he is generally considered one of the great 140s of modern times.

How can it be bias its 100% FACT and you ignore it , there is the bias !

Gives us your take on Kostya wanting no rematch with Phillips , come on Wiley dont run like KT did , state your case and defend it !

[Wiley Hyena]

Refer to post # 67.

I quoted you, but substituted "Floyd" for "Tszyu".

So, anybody who keeps bringing up Castillo 1 would be biased. According to you. Right?

I didn't know you were refering to Castillo I. Even though Castillo I happened in 2002, which makes it much more relevant, I would still say that singling out that one performance over and over in an attempt to discredit Floyd is overdoing it. If that's all one has to discredit Floyd, then admittedly, it's not much. Even Floyd is entitled to one bad night.

[SkillspayBills]

Damnit, you stole my next move. Lol.

lol, you can get this one C-drone I have plenty of food on my plate at the moment.

[Unseen]

How do you figure that , what fighter of Phillips standing has a win over Oscar !

Oscars resume makes KTs look ordinary !

Floyd gave him 14 lbs in weight !

Who did you pick to win Oscar or Floyd ? and why ?

oscar has fought a few good anmes but lsot some too. hey whats 14 lbs in weight when you are given the last 3 rounds. 25% of the fight

[Wiley Hyena]

Wiley, you keep using the same useless arguments.

1. Kostya was still a P4P fighter at the time he fought Hatton... After beating Zab (which his only admirable win in the last 5 years of his career), he beat Ben Tackie, Jesse James Leija and Sharmba Mitchell. Along with a few shoulder surgeries. Can you honestly tell me that he proved from Zab to Hatton that he belonged among the elite fighters? How was there any way to know that?
2. He still had a lot left in the tank. ... Really? He quit on his stool in a close fight with Hatton and never fought again. What more needs to be said?
3. Ask Miguel Angel Gonzales... Why not ask one of the fighters that Oscar beat more convincingly? Why ask the ONE who Kostya KO'd sooner? Perhaps its you that is biased, not others who are trying to use reason.

I've said numerous times that I consider Kostya Tszyu to be one of the best to lace them up at 140. However, at the end of his career, he hadn't proven to still have that greatness after not having any great victories and multiple surgeries. Anything you say about him being great at age 36 is merely your opinion, but him quiting on his stool and never fighting again is a fact. And those facts lean towards him not having that greatness that he had earlier in his career.

The issue is which was a greater accomplishment; Floyd v. Oscar or Hatton v. Tszyu? IMO conquering Tszyu was clearly the greater acheivement. He was p4p (Oscar was not), and he had been undefeated since 1997 (Oscar was not). I'm going with the facts here. You guys can think what you want.