Hatton v. Tszyu...the truth

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Not "OBSESSED" at all. AS I recall, I was responding to an attack on Tszyu. I defended him and did so with evidence, evidence of which you simply cannot stand to look at. Sorry, but the evidence is the evidence.

Wiley,

1) many people have told you that you are obsessed with Tszyu.

2) you have started several threads about Tszyu, a fighter who hasn't laced up gloves in nearly three years.

3) you have posted HEAVILY in any Tszyu-related thread.


Ya gotta admit... this isn't natural.

[Wiley Hyena]

There's a difference, but is that difference meaningful or relevant?

People who would look at Ali and Foreman's common opponents (norton/frazier ) for "clues" would be quite wrong. Wouldn't they?

Ali beat Foreman. No issue there.

[THe TRiNiTY]

No, Floyd had the incentive of beating the reigning champion of 140 and proving that he was truly the best. Instead, he fought bums. That's the issue.

Whats more incentive, the reigning champion, in a divison that you have fought in, but you can make TONS more money in a higher division.

Are trying to recapture your ability to say, I've beaten everyone I've faced, and NOW I can reign again in MY division with unifying all the titles, AND getting redemption.

You've even said, that Kostya Tszyu has done more than Floyd Mayweather. So, if he beat Phillips in a return, wouldn't that have cemented that theory? Istead, he (by your standards) DUCKED Phillips. (NOTE: I don't believe he did, but in your case, you have to, unless you're saying he's incapable of ducking)

The point to my thread, if by your standards, Kostya has done more, then adding to it, would have erased all doubts. He decided against that. Mayweather on the other hand, decided to move up another division, like he had been doing ANYWAY, and fight for bigger money against a naturally bigger guy. I'm not saying what was the better choice. I'm saying, if Mayweather ducked, by your standards, than so did Kostya Tszyu.

[Wiley Hyena]

The thing is, I've taken the evidence, and I've admitted that I believe Kostya Tszyu to be a great fighter. What I will not stand by is how you have a hypocritical way of looking at Mayweather. I dont' think he ducked Kostya, I don't think Kostya ducked Phillips, but if you think Mayweather was ducking in his case, then Kostya DEF. was too.

Metaphysical reasoning will not get you there. You can think what you want. And you will. But, it's not convincing at all to me. I'm looking at what happened. The issue of who ducked who has been covered in preceding threads. If you want to reopen the issue then go to those threads and start it back up. I'll slam you again.

IN the meantime, the issue is Hatton's chances against Floyd, and why the Tszyu win is a big indicator of Hatton's chances.

And I'm not hypocritical regarding Floyd either....that's bs.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

No, Floyd had the incentive of beating the reigning champion of 140 and proving that he was truly the best. Instead, he fought bums. That's the issue.

And Tszyu didn't have the incentive of avenging a vicious beatdown from a journeyman?

Lennox Lewis got Ko'd by Mccall. rematched.
Lennox Lewis got Ko'd by Rahman. Rematched.
Floyd got a disputed decision vs Castillo. Rematched.

Why wouldn't Kostya Tszyu try to get redemption against a journeyman fighter who destroyed him? I don't understand that.

[RodBarker]

I have no idea why Phillips and Tszyu didn't get it on again. Maybe you should ask Tszyu for an answer. But, until then you just continue to imply and insinuate what you want. I really don't care. And, I don't think it's relevant. Got it? It's your lack of substance that is showing here. We're talking about the vitality of Tszyu during the Hatton fight in 2005 and you're running around screaming about Phillips. So what? Get a life.

You have no idea lol ,,, but you have all these opinions on everything else , and you say you dont care how significant that loss is along with not wanting a rematch is to the legacy of KT , just brush that stuff under the carpet eh Wileys style , thats why your becoming a joke Wiley ,,, now you want to stay strict to the topic ,,, I got you nailed to the wall and you cant squirm out of it and you call Floyd a runner he has nothing on you .

[SkillspayBills]

****** always does his best to help out, suh!

You created this username to provoke anger. I won't give you the pleasure of riling me up so I will just put you on ignore.

[THe TRiNiTY]

Metaphysical reasoning will not get you there. You can think what you want. And you will. But, it's not convincing at all to me. I'm looking at what happened. The issue of who ducked who has been covered in preceding threads. If you want to reopen the issue then go to those threads and start it back up. I'll slam you again.

IN the meantime, the issue is Hatton's chances against Floyd, and why the Tszyu win is a big indicator of Hatton's chances.

And I'm not hypocritical regarding Floyd either....that's bs.

You have never slammed me. Ever. Other than joepal, and maybe Squeely.. I don't think you could find many more people who agree with you, over me.

[Wiley Hyena]

You have no idea lol ,,, but you have all these opinions on everything else , and you say you dont care how significant that loss is along with not wanting a rematch is to the legacy of KT , just brush that stuff under the carpet eh Wileys style , thats why your becoming a joke Wiley ,,, now you want to stay strict to the topic ,,, I got you nailed to the wall and you cant squirm out of it and you call Floyd a runner he has nothing on you .

You're acting desperate.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Ali beat Foreman. No issue there.

Thus disproving your "common opponents" theory....right?

So you will stop doing it?