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  • DIOS DOMINICANO
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    #41
    Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
    ...I believe that you have to have one punch KO power to be a good offensive fighter, but because I believe that you have to have "one punch KO power" to be a GREAT offensive fighter..
    Respectfully disagree.

    Duran, Chavez, Ali, SRL, MAB, etc.

    All great offensive fighters. None with one-punch KO power.

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      #42
      Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
      Respectfully disagree.

      Duran, Chavez, Ali, SRL, MAB, etc.

      All great offensive fighters. None with one-punch KO power.
      Check out my edit in my last post. But I'll disagree with you directly about Duran. I saw him knock out alot of fighters with one punch. Davey Moore for instance. And, Ali clearly had one punch KO power. But lets not parse hairs here. What is "one punch KO power?" One good shot to a fresh fighter, or just one good shot in the middle of an exchange? IT's either. But, what I'm talking about is simple "KO power." Mayweather doesn't have it or he has never shown that he does. His power is suspect.
      Last edited by Wiley Hyena; 09-15-2007, 12:16 AM.

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        #43
        Don't judge PBF's power based on his work at 147.

        Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
        But, what I'm talking about is simple "KO power." Mayweather doesn't have it or he has never shown that he does. His power is suspect.
        Fighting well above his natural weight? No.Fighting where he could/should be fighting? Yes.

        Floyd is simply not a fully grown welterweight. And he is lighter than Hatton who has chosen to campaign at JWW.

        In fact, both Castillo and Corrales were heavier on fight night (for their LW bout) than PBF was for his JMW bout.

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          #44
          Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
          Fighting well above his natural weight? No.Fighting where he could/should be fighting? Yes.

          Floyd is simply not a fully grown welterweight. And he is lighter than Hatton who has chosen to campaign at JWW.

          In fact, both Castillo and Corrales were heavier on fight night (for their LW bout) than PBF was for his JMW bout.


          It's funny yall talking about his power. I remember watching one of floyd's early fights on youtube with one of the commentators referring to him heavy handed with 1 punch Ko power. Oh how times change

          What do people expect. Diego Corrales at super-feather and lightweight was a big big puncher so was Castillo, both considered bigger punchers then floyd and what happened to them once they moved up in weight?

          Diego looked like Kassim Ouma at welterweight vs Clottey. He had no pop at all. Castillo same thing. If those two don't have any power at 140-147 then how can you expect floyd to?

          The difference between them and floyd is pure boxing skills. Floyd is not the pauly malinaggi or Cory spinks type boxer (those guys had no pop in their first weight class, forget about fifth) but he still relies on movement although he is not as one-dimensional as those two. Yes even slick boxers can be one-dimensional, not just come forward fighters. Floyd can still stand his ground and use his shoulder roll and counter punch unlike those guys who purely rely on foot speed.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Addison
            I'll have to give Mayweather all the credit in the world for how he handles himself when he gets hurt. His defense is incredible during those crucial moments. That has to be said.

            It can be seen here vs. Corley.

            He also saved himself from worse damage against Judah in the same relaxed and professional manner. Highly impressive.

            It gives the impression that potentially; Floyd Mayweather may be unknockoutable. He's remarkably cool when he gets stunned.

            There's always the outside chance a very heavy hitter catches him - but with Floyd's conditioning and experience it seems highly unlikely.

            Mr. Unknockoutable?

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              #46
              Originally posted by Addison
              I'll have to give Mayweather all the credit in the world for how he handles himself when he gets hurt. His defense is incredible during those crucial moments. That has to be said.

              It can be seen here vs. Corley.

              He also saved himself from worse damage against Judah in the same relaxed and professional manner. Highly impressive.

              It gives the impression that potentially; Floyd Mayweather may be unknockoutable. He's remarkably cool when he gets stunned.

              There's always the outside chance a very heavy hitter catches him - but with Floyd's conditioning and experience it seems highly unlikely.

              Mr. Unknockoutable?

              floyd cant be KO'd by anyone in welter weight down...its impossible his defense is to good for there power...oscar couldnt even do it and he landed some good ones

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                #47
                Originally posted by Addison
                I'll have to give Mayweather all the credit in the world for how he handles himself when he gets hurt. His defense is incredible during those crucial moments. That has to be said.

                It can be seen here vs. Corley.

                He also saved himself from worse damage against Judah in the same relaxed and professional manner. Highly impressive.

                It gives the impression that potentially; Floyd Mayweather may be unknockoutable. He's remarkably cool when he gets stunned.

                There's always the outside chance a very heavy hitter catches him - but with Floyd's conditioning and experience it seems highly unlikely.

                Mr. Unknockoutable?

                those were head shots, haten will try to break floyd's body. floyd's never been beaten to the body like haten will do if he gets the chance. pbf's never been hit so hard it breaks a rib like jl castillo in his fight with haten

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by dr filth
                  those were head shots, haten will try to break floyd's body. floyd's never been beaten to the body like haten will do if he gets the chance. pbf's never been hit so hard it breaks a rib like jl castillo in his fight with haten
                  That's a fine point. I for one am hoping Mayweather sustains one of those punches for financial reasons.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by dadon5

                    floyd cant be KO'd by anyone in welter weight down...its impossible his defense is to good for there power...oscar couldnt even do it and he landed some good ones
                    That is also something I would bet on. Agreed.

                    If I'm picking against Mayweather I'm picking by dec.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Addison
                      That's a fine point. I for one am hoping Mayweather sustains one of those punches for financial reasons.
                      i think if haten can connect with floyd's body early, he'll put his ass down on the canvas, maybe even knock him the **** out, if that is, he can cut off the ring or trap pbf in a corner and plant his feet to do the damage

                      "kill the body and the head will die"

                      remember, haten made jl castillo quit

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