Mayweather & Hatton: Adversity Means Very Little

[Wiley Hyena]

90% huh... That's a pretty high number. I'm surprised his record isn't 0-38.


Anyway..

Mayweather's offensive ability has NOTHING to do with any of this ****.


I thought I was going to hear a technical analysis.. Apparently NOT.

You don't like Mayweather's evasive style.. Understood.

That doesn't mean squat. His offense is among the best in the sport.

FACT.

With the quality of competition that he's selected, I'm not surprised at all that Floyd is 38-0. With the exception of the Gatti destruction, I've never been impressed with Floyd's "offense." And, Gatti was a punching bag with arms. Floyd does not have one punch knock down power (at least I've never seen it). IN fact, the knockdowns he has accomplished were the result of accumulations. There's nothing wrong with this, but his power is very suspect (I'm being generous here). He sets off his counterpunching which is terrific, but it rarely translates into an offensive unless the opponent is already on his way out. His style consists of the shoulder turn, peck and parry and step away. What's the difficulty of a "technical analysis," when his system is so simple? The bottom line is that Floyd will NOT engage if he believes he's got it won on points. Why do I need to argue the obvious with someone whose seen his fights? And finally, to cut thru all the crap, Floyd has never faced a fighter that has the ability to corner him down and force him to throw down, let go, and ....FIGHT. It's a simple matter of great defense and poor competition. 38-0? No surprise to me.

[Addison]

If nard had the best defense in the sport he wouldn't allow Jermain Taylor to set the pace on him and get the better for him for 2 consecutive fights. You named the one fight Floyd chose to fight mostley on the offensive rather than defensive and 4 rounds of a fight in which he completley dominated the other 8. Bernard has one hell of a defense, Floyd has the best defense in the sport.

Which is it???

Pace or Defense? Because those are two different things.


Mayweather does NOT have the best defense in the sport.

DEFENSE is evading punches.

Hopkins has the BEST defense in Boxing. Period.


I understand you're a BIG Mayweather fan..

[SkillspayBills]

With the quality of competition that he's selected, I'm not surprised at all that Floyd is 38-0. With the exception of the Gatti destruction, I've never been impressed with Floyd's "offense." And, Gatti was a punching bag with arms. Floyd does not have one punch knock down power (at least I've never seen it). IN fact, the knockdowns he has accomplished were the result of accumulations. There's nothing wrong with this, but his power is very suspect (I'm being generous here). He sets off his counterpunching which is terrific, but it rarely translates into an offensive unless the opponent is already on his way out. His style consists of the shoulder turn, peck and parry and step away. What's the difficulty of a "technical analysis," when his system is so simple? The bottom line is that Floyd will NOT engage if he believes he's got it won on points. Why do I need to argue the obvious with someone whose seen his fights? And finally, to cut thru all the crap, Floyd has never faced a fighter that has the ability to corner him down and force him to throw down, let go, and ....FIGHT. It's a simple matter of great defense and poor competition. 38-0? No surprise to me.

You ever heard of a fighter "sitting on his punches" and a fighter "boxing on his toes"? I know you have and floyd boxes and PUNCHES on his toes. He is a defesivley orientated fighter who punches on his toes, which allows him to quickly fluctuate into a defensive position if need be. If you punch on your toes it won't generate as much power as standing flat footed rotating your hips and following through on punches. If his "offense" was so simple why hasn't anyone figured it out to the point where they FORCE him into a fight. They can't because HE sets the pace, and HE has the better ring generalship. Floyd has faced opponents with the ABILITY to force him into a fight (DLH,Corrales,Chaves) but they can't impose there will on him because he sets his pace and moves wherever he needs to to disrupt their ongoing attack. Oh there we go with the "he hasn't fought anyone" it amazes me what some people spew out to discredit someone. He has fought very tough competition, he hasn't fought anyone truly great yet but he is going into the right direction. He has one of the best resumes in the game and he hasn't fought anyone? Maybe after he embaresses them they are immediatley labeled nobodies. This is what I mean by people not giving credit where credit is due.

[Addison]

With the quality of competition that he's selected, I'm not surprised at all that Floyd is 38-0. With the exception of the Gatti destruction, I've never been impressed with Floyd's "offense." And, Gatti was a punching bag with arms. Floyd does not have one punch knock down power (at least I've never seen it). IN fact, the knockdowns he has accomplished were the result of accumulations. There's nothing wrong with this, but his power is very suspect (I'm being generous here). He sets off his counterpunching which is terrific, but it rarely translates into an offensive unless the opponent is already on his way out. His style consists of the shoulder turn, peck and parry and step away. What's the difficulty of a "technical analysis," when his system is so simple? The bottom line is that Floyd will NOT engage if he believes he's got it won on points. Why do I need to argue the obvious with someone whose seen his fights? And finally, to cut thru all the crap, Floyd has never faced a fighter that has the ability to corner him down and force him to throw down, let go, and ....FIGHT. It's a simple matter of great defense and poor competition. 38-0? No surprise to me.

Ok... So now he doesn't have one of the top offenses because he doesn't have one punch knockout power.. Because he doesn't engage enough for your liking.. Becuase he's fought nobodies.. Sure, I understand..


BTW, I have Hatton OVER Mayweather for the reason you describe at the end of this post.

[SkillspayBills]

Which is it???

Pace or Defense? Because those are two different things.


Mayweather does NOT have the best defense in the sport.

DEFENSE is evading punches.

Hopkins has the BEST defense in Boxing. Period.


I understand you're a BIG Mayweather fan..

I am as big a Hopkins fan as I am a Mayweather fan. Floyd is more evasive than Hopkins is, Hopkins gets hit more than Floyd does and neither of them get hit very cleanly.

[Addison]

I am as big a Hopkins fan as I am a Mayweather fan. Floyd is more evasive than Hopkins is, Hopkins gets hit more than Floyd does and neither of them get hit very cleanly.

That is a categoric LIE.

Complete and total ****ing BULL****.

[Wiley Hyena]

Ok... So now he doesn't have one of the top offenses because he doesn't have one punch knockout power.. Because he doesn't engage enough for your liking.. Becuase he's fought nobodies.. Sure, I understand..


BTW, I have Hatton OVER Mayweather for the reason you describe at the end of this post.

I HAVE Hatton over Mayweather for the reasons I describe in my post. lol
I appreciate you pushing me to explain. But, I did not call all of Floyd's competition "nobodies." It, however, is going to take a "somebody" to break thru his extraordinary defense. Now I have to address Skills' post

[Addison]

I HAVE Hatton over Mayweather for the reasons I describe in my post. lol
I appreciate you pushing me to explain. But, I did not call all of Floyd's competition "nobodies." It, however, is going to take a "somebody" to break thru his extraordinary defense. Now I have to address Skills' post

Go get em.

[SkillspayBills]

Ok... So now he doesn't have one of the top offenses because he doesn't have one punch knockout power.. Because he doesn't engage enough for your liking.. Becuase he's fought nobodies.. Sure, I understand..


BTW, I have Hatton OVER Mayweather for the reason you describe at the end of this post.

Would you like to wager?

[Addison]

Would you like to wager?

How much room do you have left?