Floyd is no de la hoya....

[BmoreBrawler]

name some fights and their comparisons and maybe well understand each other better. itll make things much quicker, and maybe someone other than yourself will know wtf youre talking about

Ok, forgetting the whole "non-title vs title" deal, which you dragged me into somehow(forgot oscar has been in more or less all title fights since his early years...

hector camacho
shane mosley
JCC
tito trinidad
ike quartay
Pernell Whitaker
Fernando Vargas

Mayweather has:
Castillo
De La Hoya
(Corrales)?

[Living Legend]

because in boxing, tall aint all....reach and speed are !!!

he doesnt want to rematch him because he doesnt want another embarrassing track performance for boxing. By the way, I think mayweather couldve probably TKO'ed OScar that fight he way he wore him down in the late rounds...the fact he never even tried to cement his win shows he deserved a loss.

Okay let me educate you some more... Oscar is a left handed fighter who fights from the conventional stance and his main weapon is a jab and down jab at that, so why wouldn't height and the overall ability to carry more weight than most of his opponents not play a factor in him dominating them... Is it not easier to punch down and more around than it is to punch up and move around if you can visualize what I am saying... and to you last point Did De La Hoya deserve to lose because he didn't try to cement his win against Trinidad during the championship rounds of their fight, becuase they way you spoke earlier you seem to believe that the only fight oscar ever lost was against B-Hop, whom is bigger than De La Hoya, which further supports my claim that Oscar was only Elite when he was fighting smaller opponents.

[limecush]

I'd like to see him fight, to surpass Oscar: Shane Mosley, Paul Williams, Miguel Cotto, Oscar Rematch if possible, Hattion(is doing..although its a mismatch, props for taking the fight anyway), and maybe even take a run at the Marciano record...why not, at this stage there would be only bums left anyway, he couldnt be criticized for ducking. Maybe unify the welterweight titles in the process. That sounds like ATG material, and he has the skills to do it and do it in style.

No, Im not asking him to "get hit more". Thats ******ed, and I get it all the time here. What he did against Oscar was a work of art, completely draining him mentally and physically(oscar had to be drained keeping that great D up the way he did). At the culmination of PBF's master plan, he lost his nerve and didnt pull the trigger. All I ask i that after prancing around for 8 rounds wearing ppl out mentally, maybe do a little bit of wearing them out physically just to prove that this is still a fight sport.

Ohh yeaaa that IS right....Boxing does include fighting huh?Thinking about mayweather I 4got all about that.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

A) Dont consider him elite, my personal opinion though. I dont think he ever learned how to use his size properly. On paper I give floyd props for taking the fight but in hindsight, meh. He is certainly up to but no more elite than JCC 1 or Vargas.

B)if they have ass implants, she's got em.

Pass me that blunt.


a)JCC was above weight, and old. vargas wasn't quite shot. But the bullet had already left the gun.

b) She claims not to have them, and it did not APPEAR from her **** tape that he has them.

[Steak]

its rather hard to say, really. De la Hoya didnt have much of a run at super featherweight, while Mayweather dominated super featherweight and beat way better fighters there. Meanwhile, De La Hoya was a bigger player at Welterweight, but did have controversy with Quartey and Whitaker and lost to Mosley.

I guess its just how you think....I like the idea of one of the best super featherweights of all time moving up, beating the best of the division, and moving up again to do the same thing in each weight class more than having runs at light weights but not beating anyone of worth, moving up and being great but undominate at a higher weight class.
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[DIOS DOMINICANO]

I guess its just how you think....I like the idea of one of the best super featherweights of all time moving up, beating the best of the division, and moving up again to do the same thing in each weight class more than having runs at light weights but not beating anyone of worth, moving up and being great but undominate at a higher weight class.

If - IF - Floyd beats Hatton, and then beats the winner of Cotto/Mosley, he would be able to say that he beat the best at FIVE weight classes (154 disputed). That is a hell of a rezzy.

130: Corrales, Genaro
135: Castillo
140: Hatton (c/w)
147: Cotto/Mosley
154: ODLH

Even if this is only true for 3 or 4 weight classes, that is still impressive. Especially in this age of "belt-shopping".

[Tysonisgod]

Through 38 fights:
Mayweather:
2 gift decisions
2 tough fights
De La Hoya:
2 robbery losses
6-7 tough fights

Who are these tought fights de la hoya had? and who are the robberys? i'm guessin you mean shane and tito? well both tito and shane came forward when fighting oscar and landed less punches than oscar landed on them but thats exactly wat happened in floyd vs oscar, if you think oscar beat floyd then there is somethin wrong with you same with the JLC, now i dnt want you to say bla bla bla your on floyds ****, cos yea hes a great fighter but hes not the only one i like i just respect wat the man does. and as of gifts, didnt oscar get a gift when he fought Sturm?

[Tysonisgod]

and just a thought, everyone right now is sayin oscar is past is prime, but when he beat Mayorga everyone said he could fight floyd and beat him or give him lots of trouble it was the oscar of old..... and then floyd beats him and everyone says he was shot? WHAT if he now goes on to fight a Paul Williams or a Cotto and beats them? will he still be shot?

Its the same with Shane, people said after the first Winky fight that he was done, then he looked better in the second fights, then he fights a few no names then he fights a shot Vargas and suddenly everyone is acting like he has just beat oscar for the first time

[Tony628]

If - IF - Floyd beats Hatton, and then beats the winner of Cotto/Mosley, he would be able to say that he beat the best at FIVE weight classes (154 disputed). That is a hell of a rezzy.

130: Corrales, Genaro
135: Castillo
140: Hatton (c/w)
147: Cotto/Mosley
154: ODLH

Even if this is only true for 3 or 4 weight classes, that is still impressive. Especially in this age of "belt-shopping".

hes not fighting Hatton at 140.

[Tysonisgod]

its sounds like people are sayin for floyd to be a great that he first has to beat a sugar shane, ricky hatton, and maybe a paul williams and none of which are great themself and one of which is over the hill bein shane mosely, who does this make floyd better if he beats these guys