What Oscar has that Floyd will never have, is that he's the Tiger Woods of boxing. He draws fans to boxing that wouldn't normally watch it. He draws the causual fan and that's something that Floyd will never do, and over his career he has fought the better competition. If you wanna say that Oscar fought past ther prime fighters. What about Floyd fighting an old way past his prime Gatti that Oscar destroyed years before, he fought Baldomirs old slow ass, and he's looking to fight 35 year old Mosley if he beats Cotto, which remains to be seen. Not knocking Shane but, he is nowhere close to what he used to be. Oscar foguth B-Hop at 40, but B-Hop is not the average old fighter. He is arguably one of the best middleweight champs ever, not to mention the undisputed light heavy weight champ. He fought Shane in his prime. A prime Shane is also better than anyone Floyd has ever fought, and a very good Quartey when he was one an undefeated welterweight champ. That alone is better than anyone Floyd has fought.What's Floyds best competition in the last 5 to 6 years, an overrated Judah that was coming off a loss to Baldomir, who had no business getting that fight, and a past 30 Oscar who wasn't nearly what he use to be. He's taking on hatton and that is fine, but I want to see if Cotto beats Mosley, will he fight Cotto? Will he fight paul Williams? Sounds to me like he's hoping Shane wins, so he doesn't have to deal with Cotto. You can argue my second point all you want, but my first point cannot not be argued. Oscar is what Floyd never will be because of the ability to draw the causual fan, and that is good for the sport of boxing. Even at this point in his career, he is able to still draw fans that wouldn't normally watch boxing . Thats is not arguable, love him or hate him. Also love him or hate him, you can't say that Oscar ever backed down from fighting anyone, and always fought the best competition there was.
Floyd is no de la hoya....
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Oscar had his chance to be great, but never seized it. He spent his time pondering in his biggest fights, the Mayweather fight was a great example. If Oscar had the same work ethic that Floyd had, this legacy may have been different.Comment
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I agree....Floyd fights to win by points not to KO anyone unless it is in the bag. That is why it's so hard to see him fight. But he is great in what he does.because in boxing, tall aint all....reach and speed are !!!
he doesnt want to rematch him because he doesnt want another embarrassing track performance for boxing. By the way, I think mayweather couldve probably TKO'ed OScar that fight he way he wore him down in the late rounds...the fact he never even tried to cement his win shows he deserved a loss.Comment
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well stated. Like it or hate it. Floyd is yet to go threw adversity....he could of by showed the world that he could ICE that M*F*. Any man so hard in words should back it up. I remember when ODH lost to Tito he wanted to dig a hole when his fans reponded the way he fought.What Oscar has that Floyd will never have, is that he's the Tiger Woods of boxing. He draws fans to boxing that wouldn't normally watch it. He draws the causual fan and that's something that Floyd will never do, and over his career he has fought the better competition. If you wanna say that Oscar fought past ther prime fighters. What about Floyd fighting an old way past his prime Gatti that Oscar destroyed years before, he fought Baldomirs old slow ass, and he's looking to fight 35 year old Mosley if he beats Cotto, which remains to be seen. Not knocking Shane but, he is nowhere close to what he used to be. Oscar foguth B-Hop at 40, but B-Hop is not the average old fighter. He is arguably one of the best middleweight champs ever, not to mention the undisputed light heavy weight champ. He fought Shane in his prime. A prime Shane is also better than anyone Floyd has ever fought, and a very good Quartey when he was one an undefeated welterweight champ. That alone is better than anyone Floyd has fought.What's Floyds best competition in the last 5 to 6 years, an overrated Judah that was coming off a loss to Baldomir, who had no business getting that fight, and a past 30 Oscar who wasn't nearly what he use to be. He's taking on hatton and that is fine, but I want to see if Cotto beats Mosley, will he fight Cotto? Will he fight paul Williams? Sounds to me like he's hoping Shane wins, so he doesn't have to deal with Cotto. You can argue my second point all you want, but my first point cannot not be argued. Oscar is what Floyd never will be because of the ability to draw the causual fan, and that is good for the sport of boxing. Even at this point in his career, he is able to still draw fans that wouldn't normally watch boxing . Thats is not arguable, love him or hate him. Also love him or hate him, you can't say that Oscar ever backed down from fighting anyone, and always fought the best competition there was.Comment
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I KNEW ppl here agreed with me a little
Good to see the cavalry arrive, guys, I was going 1 on 4 for a while thereComment
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Regardless, your picking at 1 fight, get rid of it and Oscar is still 6-2 over mayweather in tough fights taken. At least youre consistent and dont claim judah as a tough fight for mayweather, which is the same as what youre claiming here. I personally think Vargas was sharp enough looking in that fight that he wasnt totally washed up (and proved it with 2 ko wins after the tito fight against solid guys),Vargas - AFTER FIGHTING TITO - was never the same.
After Tito, and the beating he took in that fight (especially round 12) Vargas was basically done. Nando came back and had no chin. He was knocked down by a busta in his next fight, and he started suffering back problems.
Round 12 here: http://youtube.com/watch?v=JiiQY10cqqI
You can't just go to boxrec and quote stats, man. You have to look at a guy's career and see what happened and how.
"no one is shot that early"? Guys get shot when they do. Tito shot David Reid even earlier than THAT.Comment
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i'll cosign this post thank you very muchOscar had his chance to be great, but never seized it. He spent his time pondering in his biggest fights, the Mayweather fight was a great example. If Oscar had the same work ethic that Floyd had, this legacy may have been different.
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This isn't entirely true. It's like saying Barrera couldn't beat Morales because Barrera lost twice to Junior Jones and Morales beat Junior Jones. All fights have their own set of circumstances.Comment
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