Best Defense In Boxing?

[Addison]

There's a site that compares the numbers of all the fights (that were recorded by compubox) of Floyd Mayweather, James Toney, Bernard Hopkins, Pernell Whitaker and Roy Jones Jr.

I'm looking for it now.

Why don't you share it with us?

Going to get the "proof" all by yourself I see..

[eazy_mas]

toney is better then floyd.. floyd is becoming toney.. he learned everything he knows from toney.. toneys just fat and old now... but hopkins never gets hit hard.. and even when he does his head is down and hes ready for war...hopkins is a predetor

There was a Youtube video that showcased Floyd Mayweather's "best defense in Boxing.."

Too bad it got taken down.


Between just the Castillo, Corley, and Judah fights Floyd Mayweather was hit cleanly more times than Bernard Hopkins has been hit in his entire career.

well the only hard competition for Hopkins was Jones the rest was virtually unknown middleweight contenders. Hopkins became famous when he beaten to WW and if you regard as KOing Tito as big just see how he beat him hit him like holding and hit

[deliveryman]

Let’s take it a step further and look at Floyd’s stats from 18 of his title fights tracked by CompuBox, compared to the numbers put up by fellow defensive-minded superstars Roy Jones (18 title fights from ’93-‘02) and Pernell Whitaker (18 title fights from ’89-‘97).

Floyd averaged 45 total punches thrown per round, landing 46%. His 18 opponents landed 22% of their total punches. Using the CompuBox plus/minus system, Floyd came in at +24. That number was derived by subtracting the opponents connect pct. (22%) from Mayweather’s connect pct. (46%).

The in his prime “Mr. Jones” scored a +20. Like Floyd, he got off 45 total punches per round, landing 48%. His 17 opponents landed 28%, 6% higher than Floyd’s. Like Floyd, Jones averaged 14 jabs thrown per round, but only landed 22%.

Sweat Pea registered a +16. He was busier than Mayweather and Jones in those 18 title fights, averaging 62 total punches thrown per round, landing 44%. As a result of Pete’s busyness, opponents landed 28% of their total punches. Of Whitaker’s 62 total punches thrown per round, half were jabs, 42% landed.

Rather select company for the Pretty Boy - and better overall numbers too.

Let’s take it a step further and look at Floyd’s stats from 18 of his title fights tracked by CompuBox, compared to the numbers put up by fellow defensive-minded superstars Roy Jones (18 title fights from ’93-‘02) and Pernell Whitaker (18 title fights from ’89-‘97).

Floyd averaged 45 total punches thrown per round, landing 46%. His 18 opponents landed 22% of their total punches. Using the CompuBox plus/minus system, Floyd came in at +24. That number was derived by subtracting the opponents connect pct. (22%) from Mayweather’s connect pct. (46%).

The in his prime “Mr. Jones” scored a +20. Like Floyd, he got off 45 total punches per round, landing 48%. His 17 opponents landed 28%, 6% higher than Floyd’s. Like Floyd, Jones averaged 14 jabs thrown per round, but only landed 22%.

Sweat Pea registered a +16. He was busier than Mayweather and Jones in those 18 title fights, averaging 62 total punches thrown per round, landing 44%. As a result of Pete’s busyness, opponents landed 28% of their total punches. Of Whitaker’s 62 total punches thrown per round, half were jabs, 42% landed.

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&o...ntable&id=8483

Now I'm looking for the compubox numbers on Hopkins, which I know for fact are worst, one sec.

[Addison]

Let’s take it a step further and look at Floyd’s stats from 18 of his title fights tracked by CompuBox, compared to the numbers put up by fellow defensive-minded superstars Roy Jones (18 title fights from ’93-‘02) and Pernell Whitaker (18 title fights from ’89-‘97).

Floyd averaged 45 total punches thrown per round, landing 46%. His 18 opponents landed 22% of their total punches. Using the CompuBox plus/minus system, Floyd came in at +24. That number was derived by subtracting the opponents connect pct. (22%) from Mayweather’s connect pct. (46%).

The in his prime “Mr. Jones” scored a +20. Like Floyd, he got off 45 total punches per round, landing 48%. His 17 opponents landed 28%, 6% higher than Floyd’s. Like Floyd, Jones averaged 14 jabs thrown per round, but only landed 22%.

Sweat Pea registered a +16. He was busier than Mayweather and Jones in those 18 title fights, averaging 62 total punches thrown per round, landing 44%. As a result of Pete’s busyness, opponents landed 28% of their total punches. Of Whitaker’s 62 total punches thrown per round, half were jabs, 42% landed.

Rather select company for the Pretty Boy - and better overall numbers too.

Let’s take it a step further and look at Floyd’s stats from 18 of his title fights tracked by CompuBox, compared to the numbers put up by fellow defensive-minded superstars Roy Jones (18 title fights from ’93-‘02) and Pernell Whitaker (18 title fights from ’89-‘97).

Floyd averaged 45 total punches thrown per round, landing 46%. His 18 opponents landed 22% of their total punches. Using the CompuBox plus/minus system, Floyd came in at +24. That number was derived by subtracting the opponents connect pct. (22%) from Mayweather’s connect pct. (46%).

The in his prime “Mr. Jones” scored a +20. Like Floyd, he got off 45 total punches per round, landing 48%. His 17 opponents landed 28%, 6% higher than Floyd’s. Like Floyd, Jones averaged 14 jabs thrown per round, but only landed 22%.

Sweat Pea registered a +16. He was busier than Mayweather and Jones in those 18 title fights, averaging 62 total punches thrown per round, landing 44%. As a result of Pete’s busyness, opponents landed 28% of their total punches. Of Whitaker’s 62 total punches thrown per round, half were jabs, 42% landed.

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&o...ntable&id=8483

Now I'm looking for the compubox numbers on Hopkins, which I know for fact are worst, one sec.

Take your time.

[Avenue]

toss up between Floyd or Winky

[deliveryman]

Judging by Hopkins last 3 fights, where he has been extremely defensive, compared to his earlier years, where he got hit a lot more, his stats are still a ways behind Floyds.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/view.php?pg=compubox_hopkins_wright_stats

He's at 27.5%, 5.5% higher than Floyds.

I'm still looking for his career compubox numbers.

[Addison]

Count the times Echols lands on Hopkins in their first fight.

Alright there WM.. I'm having a look at this Echols fight.. Again.


What instantly strikes me is the type of fight this is..

Why would you even bring this up??

Hopkins is going straight into the flames here - very aggressive fight.

How is this a good example?

These guys weren't using much "defense" were they?

It wasn't that type of fight!

But regardless, Hopkins - despite his extreme intensity is not getting peppered up.

He's initiating the contact, and getting hit while he's being held.

He's taking the fight to Echols and fighting very aggressively.


As soon as he backs off from Echols, Ech cannot hit him.

As soon as he decides to move and clear out - like Floyd Mayweather has done for almost every fight of his career - Echols CANNOT hit Hopkins.

[Addison]

Judging by Hopkins last 3 fights, where he has been extremely defensive, compared to his earlier years, where he got hit a lot more, his stats are still a ways behind Floyds.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/view.php?pg=compubox_hopkins_wright_stats

He's at 27.5%, 5.5% higher than Floyds.

I'm still looking for his career compubox numbers.

Maybe we shouldn't be using 3 fights.

You want to use the Tarver fight?

Fights like that?..


Do all the aggressive moments of Floyd Mayweather's entire career add up to the 12 rounds of aggression Bernard Hopkins showed in taking the fight to Antonio Tarver?

Hell no.


Bad example.

[Addison]

Judging by Hopkins last 3 fights, where he has been extremely defensive, compared to his earlier years, where he got hit a lot more, his stats are still a ways behind Floyds.http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/vi...s_wright_stats

He's at 27.5%, 5.5% higher than Floyds.

I'm still looking for his career compubox numbers.

Built in excuse right there..

[Addison]

Judging by Hopkins last 3 fights, where he has been extremely defensive, compared to his earlier years, where he got hit a lot more, his stats are still a ways behind Floyds.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/view.php?pg=compubox_hopkins_wright_stats

He's at 27.5%, 5.5% higher than Floyds.

I'm still looking for his career compubox numbers.

Understand something.

Floyd Mayweather has as much of a non-risk style of fighting as any athlete in the sport.

Bernard Hopkins goes directly inside on guys, dog-fighting, rough and tumble, in and out with his whole body (and head) as his basic style.

He doesn't always press the action, but when he does it is usually rather aggressive and relentless.

No matter who he's fighting.


Floyd Mayweather; with his hit and run, stop drop and roll sort of defense still gets ****ing nailed right between the eyes with leads, and 1-2's.


Don't try to tell me someone could tee off on Bernard Hopkins the way Zab Judah was playing tic-tac-toe on Mayweather's head and torso..

Do not.