Kimbo Fight

[hnk_jr]

Kimbo was a lot stronger than Mercer, and superior in almost every way(And yes, most of it is because of age). Mercer is **** now, i've been telling people for weeks.
What's funny is that Mercer is the one with more mma experience, and Kimbo has only been knuckle boxing street bums before taking this fight. I thought Kimbo would be the one looking like a helpless boxer in there. Mercer needs to quit the mma, he stinks at it. What the **** is he doing in there, he looks lost and embarrassing. He only gave 'boxing only' fans some false hope.

Regardless of the Kimbo-Mercer fight, I still believe that someone with Great Boxing Skill and above average take down defense would be an elite fighter in the MMA world. I don't necessarily think he would run the table, but do believe that he would be extremely successful.

Jens Pulver of the UFC is an average boxer, with an above average ground game, and decent kicking ability and he's a big name in the MMA world, but doesn't seem to make it past the "Tuesday Night Fights" level in Boxing. Does that make boxing superior? Not really, Boxing is just one of the mixed martial arts. That it happens to be the most aesthetically appealing of the mixed martial arts doesn't make it an inherently better sport, it just makes it more fun to watch.

To me it seems like a lot of the top MMA guys, because they have so many different elements to worry about, aren't as developed in any one thing as a good to great boxer. That is why I prefer boxing.

[hnk_jr]

There is alot of solid boxers in MMA right now but they get tooled rather easily. If Mayweather would have had the guts to step in the cage with Sean Sherk he woulda gotten demolished...

Define what you mean by "solid", and if you would, drop a few of their names so I can look up their Pro Boxing record.

Thanks

[Genghis Con]

Marcus Davis from Ireland - Boxing Record
Yosuke Nishijima - Boxing record
Allesio Sakara - Boxing Records
Francois Botha

All have had sub par MMA careers.

[-Antonio-]

This couldn't have helped boxings cause at all. Kimbo is a joke amongst the MMA community and he dominated one of the best boxers of all time...

Uhhh

First of all at his best Mercer was a solid contender who picked up an alphabet title and fought close fights with Holyfield and Lewis. He is NOT one of the best boxers ever, and he hasnt been a threat in the division for at least 10 years. So obviously like someone said before you dont know ****.

[-Antonio-]

A boxer who actually takes time to learn and train other elements would do well imo. How can you blame a guy for doing bad when he only trains in one of the many different martial arts?

Im just in a bad mood because I just got in an argument with my friends about who would win a street fight Kimbo or Lennox Lewis. Im talking stand up fighting like Kimbo does in the street. Two people actually thought Kimbo would beat his ass. God I wanted to throw them out of the window.

[Genghis Con]

In a standup fight Lennox would win, but in a MMA fight Lennox would get crushed.

The Boxers I listed above have been training MMA for a long time now and they are A-B Level Boxers but C-D Level MMA fighters/

[porlie]

A boxer who actually takes time to learn and train other elements would do well imo. How can you blame a guy for doing bad when he only trains in one of the many different martial arts?

Im just in a bad mood because I just got in an argument with my friends about who would win a street fight Kimbo or Lennox Lewis. Im talking stand up fighting like Kimbo does in the street. Two people actually thought Kimbo would beat his ass. God I wanted to throw them out of the window.

Haha you shoulda launched them straight through the window.

[hnk_jr]

Marcus Davis from Ireland - Boxing Record
Yosuke Nishijima - Boxing record
Allesio Sakara - Boxing Records
Francois Botha

All have had sub par MMA careers.

Marcus Davis is an below average club fighter who hasn't fought anyone with real experience. One of the guys he fought (and beat) had already lost 22 of 30 fights, so it doesn't suprise me that he's had a sub par MMA career.

Botha has always had a good punch, but he needs you to stand in front of him with your chin out to land it flush. He's also an extremely slow fighter, so it comes as no suprise that MMA guys get to him with ease. I'd imagine he's been submitted more than a few times?

Yosuke Nishijima has, like Marcus Davis, a padded club fighting record, and got TKO'd in the second by a guy with a 1-7 Pro Boxing records. This is certainly not the stuff with which great boxers are made.

Sakara is an Italian Cruiserweight, who lost his only semi-serious Pro Boxing bout by KO. Again, not the stuff with which legends are made.

None of these guys are what I would refer to as "solid" boxers. They are more like semi-amatuer boxers who travel from Howard Johnson to Howard Johnson to box in some Banquet Hall for pocket change. These are not the guys to base an argument on. They, instead, represent way below average boxers who became below average MMA fighters, and are guys who seem to occupy a similar space in both sports: the fringe.

[-Antonio-]

In a standup fight Lennox would win, but in a MMA fight Lennox would get crushed.

The Boxers I listed above have been training MMA for a long time now and they are A-B Level Boxers but C-D Level MMA fighters/

All those boxers you listed are C-D level bro. Just because they have a lot of wins doesn't mean anything. In this sport its easy to pad your record with a lot of easy wins. There are guys who are 40-0 and get exposed by average fighters.

[Genghis Con]

Yea...but it pretty much proves that a boxer would get demolished in an MMA bout.

Pretty much why Floyd Mayweather decided to apologize...