The rationale behind the Miranda hype

[Njord777]

No one can deny that 10th round. Who ran their mouth prior to the fight? Green did. Who failed to be able to impress and back it up during the fight? Green again. Miranda was more active, brought it to Green every round, and then in the final round, way ahead on the score cards, he still wanted the KO. Boxing fans are forced to love someone who does that. When a fighter can sit back and cruise- but instead activley tries to lay his opponent out, and almost succeeds- you have to credit them.

People want to see Miranda because of the classic equation that he is:
KO power + Fighting spirit = An exciting fighter.

End of story, really. **** skill, or speed or any of those other things. Pantera will have fans, will scare men like Allen Green right out of their game plans because he is a fighter.

[Mr. Ryan]

Would've gave you good karma on the post but I have to spread some around. Good post Asian.

I'm Professor Sensation, and this is Boxing 101.

[K-Nan]

Duddy is a guy who needs alot more work. He's being groomed as the third of the Dibella Trinity fighters who are being brought up as household PPV ethnic fighters, along with Italian Malignaggi and ***ish Dmitriy Salita. Duddy is an Irish fighter with alot of tenacity and marketability, but to be honest Andy Lee is the superior fighter.

Duddy should be the one with the nickname "Left Hook". It's murderous.

I feel blessed to be in what seems to be a MW goldmine..

[Mr. Ryan]

Duddy should be the one with the nickname "Left Hook". It's murderous.

I feel blessed to be in what seems to be a MW goldmine..

Duddy has a very good left hook, but it's not as badass as some might suspect. He isn't a Tito Trinidad puncher, but possesses some serious physical strength that make his blows very effective. I passed on the Duddy-Bonsante fight in The Garden becuz the Broadway Boxing card the week after has much better undercard. I was supposed to be at the Campas fight, but my heart was broken by a mixup with my credential application.

[K-Nan]

Duddy has a very good left hook, but it's not as badass as some might suspect. He isn't a Tito Trinidad puncher, but possesses some serious physical strength that make his blows very effective. I passed on the Duddy-Bonsante fight in The Garden becuz the Broadway Boxing card the week after has much better undercard. I was supposed to be at the Campas fight, but my heart was broken by a mixup with my credential application.

Yeah, like Steward said about Pacman, "He pushes his punches."

[Mr. Ryan]

Truthfully, it was the 10th round that seperated Miranda as the superior fighter. I knew that Green was going to make it up after the second knockdown because it was an accumulation knockdown that caused his legs to go. He wasn't hit with anything really solid but was still buzzed from the first right hand that sent him dipsy doodle status. His eyes were clear and he was ready to get up. But that last right hand at the bell suggests that Green was lucky to get out of their on his feet.

[Mr. Ryan]

Yeah, like Steward said about Pacman, "He pushes his punches."

I tend to disagree with Steward on that. I feel that Pacquiao does snap them, but his major issue is his bow and arrow 1-2 that he throws. I do afford alot of credability to Steward's statements, but often I do disagree with him on certain judgement calls. Some have told me that they feel Steward says alot of "sound byte" comments that are intended to be strong in nature and thought-provoking, but not entirely accurate. I dunno, I love the guy to death and regard him and Teddy Atlas as the 2 foremost authorities on the sport.

[Guest]

Good thread, Geronimo, with an unusually hostile reaction.

I like watching Tumpranda a Hell of a lot... his love of fighting even after a bell is always going to make him watchable. But he's eminently beatable, and I do think there's a validity to what you're saying.

[K-Nan]

I tend to disagree with Steward on that. I feel that Pacquiao does snap them, but his major issue is his bow and arrow 1-2 that he throws. I do afford alot of credability to Steward's statements, but often I do disagree with him on certain judgement calls. Some have told me that they feel Steward says alot of "sound byte" comments that are intended to be strong in nature and thought-provoking, but not entirely accurate. I dunno, I love the guy to death and regard him and Teddy Atlas as the 2 foremost authorities on the sport.

I think it was a very sound judgment on Pacquiao's punches. It wasn't intended as a diss, if I remember. He said it during the Barrera-Juarez 1, in comparison to Rocky's punches, and why they weren't effecting Barrera as much as Pacman's did. Rocky merely throws his punches out there with a snap, while Manny throws them in an attempt to send those bitches through your face.

[Mr. Ryan]

I think it was a very sound judgment on Pacquiao's punches. It wasn't intended as a diss, if I remember. He said it during the Barrera-Juarez 1, in comparison to Rocky's punches, and why they weren't effecting Barrera as much as Pacman's did. Rocky merely throws his punches out there with a snap, while Manny throws them in an attempt to send those bitches through your face.

I believe what Emmanuel said was that Pacquiao's punches are thrown with a longer trajection so they are easier to see coming, whereas Juarez's shots are shorter and more concise. I recall writing a very long essay-post on those comments, now that I think of it.