The rationale behind the Miranda hype

[Mr. Ryan]

lol is that what it was?

He looked stable untill the final seconds where he was getting knocked out. before than big shot came....he was actually on balance and kept looking down after throwing a jab like he forgot everything he learned in sparring.

I've seen that many times, in which dudes are in huge trouble and are trying to play it off that they just had their feet mixed up or some bull****. I can recall Roy Jones doing that against Honey Boy in '98, when he played that **** off beautifully. Even the commentators discredited it like it was a balance shot. Truth is, Jones didn't see that left hand coming and was hurt but remained poised.

Allan Green was out, I mean really. To paraphrase Vivian Harris, he was all ****ed up. But he showed balls and heart and tried to bust out some of that professional saavy ala Chris Byrd/Ike Ibeabuchi when he claimed that it wasn't a legit knockdown when he was out on his feet. It was a desperation move in my opinion, but props for pulling out the stops.

[Mr. Ryan]

It has to be hard fighting a guy like Miranda who comes in with his head down swinging. It gives you no target except for his body unless you can catch him with a short punch coming forward. Easier said than done against a guy with his reach and punching power for his weight. Since he's built like a rock it makes that even more difficult to pull off that attack.

Green showed how someone can beat Edison and that's by picking their shots and following up on them (which he didn't). I thought Green did a good job for a while and I was in the minority I suppose. He fought exactly how I thought he would, and lead with the left hook landing bombs. He only landed three the whole fight and one of them floored Edison. He was far too laid back.

You have to stay busy with a strong jab to break up his momentum. Miranda is a very busy, aggressive fighter with no head movement. You need to step to your left with the jab and keep him turning so he can't get set.

[Kball15]

Remind me not to hire you if I ever become president of a television station. You think they just wait and see what happens? I'm not saying fights are frequently 'fixed'; those claims annoy me too. But if you think they don't have longterm marketing strategies . . . .

well obviously they have long term stradegies.

Like if it looks like Miranda-Taylor is gonna be a good fight, they'll get both guys on TV a lot.

But thats what the people want. The COMMENTATORs dont hype a guy up unless they deserve it.

They aren't "corrupt" or w/e

[kayjay]

I've seen that many times, in which dudes are in huge trouble and are trying to play it off that they just had their feet mixed up or some bull****. I can recall Roy Jones doing that against Honey Boy in '98, when he played that **** off beautifully. Even the commentators discredited it like it was a balance shot. Truth is, Jones didn't see that left hand coming and was hurt but remained poised.

Allan Green was out, I mean really. To paraphrase Vivian Harris, he was all ****ed up. But he showed balls and heart and tried to bust out some of that professional saavy ala Chris Byrd/Ike Ibeabuchi when he claimed that it wasn't a legit knockdown when he was out on his feet. It was a desperation move in my opinion, but props for pulling out the stops.

I'll give the man credit for making it to the final bell. That last minute must have seemed an eternity.

[kayjay]

well obviously they have long term stradegies.

Like if it looks like Miranda-Taylor is gonna be a good fight, they'll get both guys on TV a lot.

But thats what the people want. The COMMENTATORs dont hype a guy up unless they deserve it.

They aren't "corrupt" or w/e

I didn't use that word or any other with moral implications.

[Mr. Ryan]

Remind me not to hire you if I ever become president of a television station. You think they just wait and see what happens? I'm not saying fights are frequently 'fixed'; those claims annoy me too. But if you think they don't have longterm marketing strategies . . . .

The truth is, there is great competition with HBO and Showtime. If Miranda doesn't fight for HBO, then he fights for Showtime. Miranda has the Kassim Ouma-star quality with his character and there is alot of money to be made because he's a big punching, charismatic, middleweight who brings it every night. HBO is securing a very sound investment and monopolizing the middleweight division.

[Mr. Ryan]

I'll give the man credit for making it to the final bell. That last minute must have seemed an eternity.

I doubt strongly he has many recollections of the final minute of that fight.

[K-Nan]

The truth is, there is great competition with HBO and Showtime. If Miranda doesn't fight for HBO, then he fights for Showtime. Miranda has the Kassim Ouma-star quality with his character and there is alot of money to be made because he's a big punching, charismatic, middleweight who brings it every night. HBO is securing a very sound investment and monopolizing the middleweight division.

I hope Duddy gets thrown into the MW mix soon.....

[Knicksman20]

Did you ever think that maybe Miranda took it out of him, instead of him not having it in him to begin with? It's not easy to get your game going when you have a guy with an 80%+ KO percentage strutting and putting for your skull. Allan Green is a very impressive, commendable fighter and Miranda seperated himself as a superior fighter last night. Give the man his respect. Diminishing such a performance and merit is the equivalent of these guys on the forums claiming that every upset is a fixed fight.

Would've gave you good karma on the post but I have to spread some around. Good post Asian.

[Mr. Ryan]

I hope Duddy gets thrown into the MW mix soon.....

Duddy is a guy who needs alot more work. He's being groomed as the third of the Dibella Trinity fighters who are being brought up as household PPV ethnic fighters, along with Italian Malignaggi and ***ish Dmitriy Salita. Duddy is an Irish fighter with alot of tenacity and marketability, but to be honest Andy Lee is the superior fighter.