The rationale behind the Miranda hype

[Knicksman20]

Taylor is not that good.....Winky beat him most know that and he is not exactly a big guy.Miranda would punish Taylor if you ask me.Taylor can't handle aggression, I mean Winky is not very aggressive but was more than usual vs Taylor and he gave Taylor all he can handle......Miranda would simply drive Taylor crazy and force him into a fight and once that happens Taylor is done.

I agree with you on that. Winky pressured JT & backed him up for most of the fight & was successful. Miranda would come with that kind of pressure but with the power to KO him. Both (Miranda & JT) have defense issues but Miranda showed that he can recover from getting hit hard from bigger punchers. I said this earlier & I'll say it again: The only "puncher" JT fought was Hopkins & JT was in trouble in the first fight. JT can't avoid getting hit all night because of his defensive lapses & WHEN he does get hit he'll be in a world of trouble.

[cortdawg25]

No one can deny that 10th round. Who ran their mouth prior to the fight? Green did. Who failed to be able to impress and back it up during the fight? Green again. Miranda was more active, brought it to Green every round, and then in the final round, way ahead on the score cards, he still wanted the KO. Boxing fans are forced to love someone who does that. When a fighter can sit back and cruise- but instead activley tries to lay his opponent out, and almost succeeds- you have to credit them.

People want to see Miranda because of the classic equation that he is:
KO power + Fighting spirit = An exciting fighter.

End of story, really. **** skill, or speed or any of those other things. Pantera will have fans, will scare men like Allen Green right out of their game plans because he is a fighter.

As a boxing fan, I disagree with that part. i'm not impressed with Miranda because he lacks a lot and they need to keep him away from Taylor who is very athletic and moves like a featherweight. No skill will get you get killed by the elite in boxing. Allan green was the better boxer, but he is not great. he is OK. he defense is real suspect, I could see Mirand right hand coming a mile away. The whole time I'm yelling at the TV, move your head to left, duck for christ sakes. His punches are telegraphed and he only looks for the big punch. Taylor or Winky would eat him up!!

[SquareCircle]

You're right I'm sorry. But Taylor is the real ***el at HBO, no? So you're saying they're just playing the spread bet (if Taylor loses they've already built the audience for the new champ), rather than refusing to risk JT by building his opponents.

Really I'm just pissed that Taylor - Calzaghe won't happen because there is too much excitement at middleweight. No one is even demanding this fight anymore, and we might be stuck with Calzaghe -- Hopkins instead.

Taylor is not that good.....Winky beat him most know that and he is not exactly a big guy.Miranda would punish Taylor if you ask me.Taylor can't handle aggression, I mean Winky is not very aggressive but was more than usual vs Taylor and he gave Taylor all he can handle......Miranda would simply drive Taylor crazy and force him into a fight and once that happens Taylor is done.

As a boxing fan, I disagree with that part. i'm not impressed with Miranda because he lacks a lot and they need to keep him away from Taylor who is very athletic and moves like a featherweight. No skill will get you get killed by the elite in boxing. Allan green was the better boxer, but he is not great. he is OK. he defense is real suspect, I could see Mirand right hand coming a mile away. The whole time I'm yelling at the TV, move your head to left, duck for christ sakes. His punches are telegraphed and he only looks for the big punch. Taylor or Winky would eat him up!!

I, for the most part, disagree about Taylor eating up Miranda. Wright has a better chance, in my opinion, than Taylor does. Taylor is easy to hit in the face, Wright isn't. Taylor was holding on for dear life from a straight right hand, from a 40 year old man. A flush shot from Pantera would remove his consciousness from the face of this earth. If it doesn't, it will damn sure throw Taylor out of his game plan. Then it just might become a slugfest. If that happens, which one of them will win? Hmmm, well if I were betting, I'd pick the guy with the ****ed up childhood, and amazing chin, in Edison Miranda. Taylor's childhood was comparable to that of the brady bunch while Miranda is learning to read from a drug dealer. Same with Wright. I can see Miranda beating Taylor decisively via KO, and then going on to fight Wright...and HBO going behind Miranda 100% because he's more exciting than Wright, giving him all the rounds, I can see Lederman giving him all the rounds vs Wright simply for being the aggressor, he can beat Wright the same way Taylor did..with aggression, even if uneffective. Miranda takes a better punch than Taylor, keep in mind.

[kayjay]

and then going on to fight Wright...and HBO going behind Miranda 100% because he's more exciting than Wright, giving him all the rounds, I can see Lederman giving him all the rounds vs Wright simply for being the aggressor, he can beat Wright the same way Taylor did..with aggression, even if uneffective. Miranda takes a better punch than Taylor, keep in mind.

I hadn't even thought there would be a question about Wright - Miranda. Winky is not a good matchup for Miranda.

[cortdawg25]

I agree with you on that. Winky pressured JT & backed him up for most of the fight & was successful. Miranda would come with that kind of pressure but with the power to KO him. Both (Miranda & JT) have defense issues but Miranda showed that he can recover from getting hit hard from bigger punchers. I said this earlier & I'll say it again: The only "puncher" JT fought was Hopkins & JT was in trouble in the first fight. JT can't avoid getting hit all night because of his defensive lapses & WHEN he does get hit he'll be in a world of trouble.

Taylor will destory Miranda! Yeah winky had success agianst Taylor, but Winky is a top 5 P4Per who is very strong with immaculate defense. he uses great angles and has one of the best jabs in the business. All Miranda has is strength and agression. he don't got no jab and no real arsenal except for that right hand. Miranda a tough SOB, but taylor will eat him up with jabs and powershots. And his athleticism will be overwhelming, who has Miranda fought that can move and do things that Taylor do. It would be ugly and Miranda would be forgotten if they fought now....

[cortdawg25]

I, for the most part, disagree about Taylor eating up Miranda. Wright has a better chance, in my opinion, than Taylor does. Taylor is easy to hit in the face, Wright isn't. Taylor was holding on for dear life from a straight right hand, from a 40 year old man. A flush shot from Pantera would remove his consciousness from the face of this earth. If it doesn't, it will damn sure throw Taylor out of his game plan. Then it just might become a slugfest. If that happens, which one of them will win? Hmmm, well if I were betting, I'd pick the guy with the ****ed up childhood, and amazing chin, in Edison Miranda. Taylor's childhood was comparable to that of the brady bunch while Miranda is learning to read from a drug dealer. Same with Wright. I can see Miranda beating Taylor decisively via KO, and then going on to fight Wright...and HBO going behind Miranda 100% because he's more exciting than Wright, giving him all the rounds, I can see Lederman giving him all the rounds vs Wright simply for being the aggressor, he can beat Wright the same way Taylor did..with aggression, even if uneffective. Miranda takes a better punch than Taylor, keep in mind.

You talking about 2 different animals. One that is technical and strong with a load of experience and what that is just strong. You need skill in boxing and Miranda doesn't have it to compete with Taylor or Winky in my opinion.

[SquareCircle]

if I could be guaranteed the same miranda who fought last saturday, and have the fight take place in puerto rico, ...he'd beat up taylor for sure...I think he needs 2 more championship fights before Wright though.

[SquareCircle]

You talking about 2 different animals. One that is technical and strong with a load of experience and what that is just strong. You need skill in boxing and Miranda doesn't have it to compete with Taylor or Winky in my opinion.

im just using that as an example for how weak taylor's chin is.

[cortdawg25]

im just using that as an example for how weak taylor's chin is.

He took a shot from Bernard Hopkins and now his chin is weak. Isn't that the same Bernard who was older and rocked a Light HW in Tarver? Come on Square Bizness, you are being unfair.

[cortdawg25]

There is no way in hell a fighter with 1 weapon is beating a world champion. protect yourself from the right hand and you beat Miranda easily, it ain't like he is going somewhere. he won't be hard to find, he doesn't move from nothing, he is non-elusive.