Greb cant beat hagler

[BuddyChacon]

Hispanics have only been invloved since the 70's pal. There were like a few before that, but not much. When guys like duran, arguello made big names for thier country, then more hispanics opened the door to boxing.

Dempsey didnt train in head movement, angles, etc. To even suggest he had that fundamental training is ridiculous. He doesnt deserve a top 10 heavyweight spot, many heavyweights have a better resume than him.

Hispanics have only dominated since the 70s pal. They became more prevenlant in the 60s or so I will agree. It was hasn't been a white dominated sport for almost a Century and I should have said multi racial sport. Look at how good Dempsey was without that fundamental training. So you are saying if Dempsey was coming up today with the new training methods he wouldn't succeed. I find that very doubtful.

[brownpimp88]

Hispanics have only dominated since the 70s pal. They became more prevenlant in the 60s or so I will agree. It was hasn't been a white dominated sport for almost a Century and I should have said multi racial sport. Look at how good Dempsey was without that fundamental training. So you are saying if Dempsey was coming up today with the new training methods he wouldn't succeed. I find that very doubtful.

You cant give them something they dont have, sorry.

[BuddyChacon]

thats good if you disagree, greb will not truly be recognized as the best middleweight ever, only 70 year olds that are still alive are gonn say it. Wait another 20 years, when the bert sugars go away. You will then find out that monzon and hagler will be mentioned in the breath of best middleweigt ever and greb will fade over to the other side.

Who cares if they were TOUGHER, thier skills were inferior. Only a dumbass wont admit that, tyson had more skill than rocky marciano. Ask any random non boxing fan to watch both of them in action, 10/10 times the fan will say tyson was easily more skilled fundamentally.

Most people already rate Monzon and Hagler with the best Middleweights ever. Greb does deserve to be among them. While you are at it throw out Robinson with his inferior training methods compared to todays stars.

[BuddyChacon]

You cant give them something they dont have, sorry.

So Dempsey and those guys had no Skill is what you are saying.

[Mr. Ryan]

Also to say Greb stylistically loses to Hagler is a joke. Show me footage of him fighting a pro bout and then talk about his style.

Show me footage of Greb fighting a pro bout, and then we can talk about how he would beat an all time great like Hagler. I don't give much creedence to the claims of those who think that these 1900s fighters who couldn't slip punches or use the jab but would somehow beat all these technical fighters who have documented proof of their talents.

[K-DOGG]

thats good if you disagree, greb will not truly be recognized as the best middleweight ever, only 70 year olds that are still alive are gonn say it. Wait another 20 years, when the bert sugars go away. You will then find out that monzon and hagler will be mentioned in the breath of best middleweigt ever and greb will fade over to the other side.

Who cares if they were TOUGHER, thier skills were inferior. Only a dumbass wont admit that, tyson had more skill than rocky marciano. Ask any random non boxing fan to watch both of them in action, 10/10 times the fan will say tyson was easily more skilled fundamentally.

10 out of 10 casual fans are dumbasses.

[K-DOGG]

Show me footage of Greb fighting a pro bout, and then we can talk about how he would beat an all time great like Hagler. I don't give much creedence to the claims of those who think that these 1900s fighters who couldn't slip punches or use the jab but would somehow beat all these technical fighters who have documented proof of their talents.

Couldn't slip punches or use the jab. What..you think they just stood there like rock-em-sock-em robots?!

No skill?! How the hell do you survive with 4 Oz gloves coming at you all night over the course of a 200 fight career if you don't have skills?

[BuddyChacon]

Show me footage of Greb fighting a pro bout, and then we can talk about how he would beat an all time great like Hagler. I don't give much creedence to the claims of those who think that these 1900s fighters who couldn't slip punches or use the jab but would somehow beat all these technical fighters who have documented proof of their talents.

I used to be like you never believing the hype of guys like Greb or Langford without film. After reading hundreds of articles on the old timers. Are these people just making up the fact that they were that great?

[BuddyChacon]

Couldn't slip punches or use the jab. What..you think they just stood there like rock-em-sock-em robots?!

No skill?! How the hell do you survive with 4 Oz gloves coming at you all night over the course of a 200 fight career if you don't have skills?

Dempsey practically created the bobbing and weaving style of fighting.

[brownpimp88]

I used to be like you never believing the hype of guys like Greb or Langford without film. After reading hundreds of articles on the old timers. Are these people just making up the fact that they were that great?

They want to hype thier boys, its as simple as that.

All those basketball ***gots try and say wilt was this, he was that, he was way better than jordan. Its clear as day jordan is the best, ***s just dont want to swallow that.

Boxing was not a sweet science in those days, it wasnt technical.