Wlad-Brewster 1

[JAB5239]

There was some talk from a poster here that the first Wlad-Brewster fight was fixed and Wlad was drugged.

I chose to rewatch the fight again and get reacclimated with it.

From what I saw, Wlad was loading up on everything and teeing off on Brewster. But you could see as early as the second round he was starting to get tired, and the HBO announcers were commenting on it as well. By the middle of the fifth he was exhausted and Brewster caught and hurt him bad and Wlad was unable to recover and the fight was waived off.

After the fight Wlad went to the hospital and his blood sugar was nearly twice the norm. No steroids were detected, but I've long suspected him of using steroids. My own opinion of course, with no proof.

Wlad later had an independent doctor check his blood and urine. Again, nothing fishy but the doctor suggested he could have been poisoned, but there was no evidence. Wlad had the test transferred to another facility and the samples got lost.

In my opinion, Wlad gassed. He than got hurt and couldn't recover. His chin was always suspect, and his powers of recovery were as well. I think those things have been well documented.

The possibility he could have been poisoned is there, but I just don't see it. Wlad was a great fighter after his losses to Sanders and Brewster because he learned how to pace himself better and hold more.

What do you think? Was this fight fixed?

[Willie Pep 229]

There was some talk from a poster here that the first Wlad-Brewster fight was fixed and Wlad was drugged.

I chose to rewatch the fight again and get reacclimated with it.

From what I saw, Wlad was loading up on everything and teeing off on Brewster. But you could see as early as the second round he was starting to get tired, and the HBO announcers were commenting on it as well. By the middle of the fifth he was exhausted and Brewster caught and hurt him bad and Wlad was unable to recover and the fight was waived off.

After the fight Wlad went to the hospital and his blood sugar was nearly twice the norm. No steroids were detected, but I've long suspected him of using steroids. My own opinion of course, with no proof.

Wlad later had an independent doctor check his blood and urine. Again, nothing fishy but the doctor suggested he could have been poisoned, but there was no evidence. Wlad had the test transferred to another facility and the samples got lost.

In my opinion, Wlad gassed. He than got hurt and couldn't recover. His chin was always suspect, and his powers of recovery were as well. I think those things have been well documented.

The possibility he could have been poisoned is there, but I just don't see it. Wlad was a great fighter after his losses to Sanders and Brewster because he learned how to pace himself better and hold more.

What do you think? Was this fight fixed?

They made me watch it again, as well.

I agree with your assessment - the fly in the ointment to me is that I never saw a fighter fade that badly. Fighters fade, but he seems, by only the 5th round, to have hit a point of pure exhaustion. It makes me wonder why a top tier fighter would enter a major fight that out of condition.

Where was his second wind?

But without serious proof I have to agree, he faded, bad!

[JAB5239]

They made me watch it again, as well.

I agree with your assessment - the fly in the ointment to me is that I never saw a fighter fade that badly. Fighters fade, but he seems, by only the 5th round, to have hit a point of pure exhaustion. It makes me wonder why a top tier fighter would enter a major fight that out of condition.

Where was his second wind?

But without serious proof I have to agree, he faded, bad!

After this loss he learned to hold more and pace himself better per instruction of Emmanuel Steward. He wasn't as fun to watch, but he was very effective.

[QueensburyRules]

There was some talk from a poster here that the first Wlad-Brewster fight was fixed and Wlad was drugged.

I chose to rewatch the fight again and get reacclimated with it.

From what I saw, Wlad was loading up on everything and teeing off on Brewster. But you could see as early as the second round he was starting to get tired, and the HBO announcers were commenting on it as well. By the middle of the fifth he was exhausted and Brewster caught and hurt him bad and Wlad was unable to recover and the fight was waived off.

After the fight Wlad went to the hospital and his blood sugar was nearly twice the norm. No steroids were detected, but I've long suspected him of using steroids. My own opinion of course, with no proof.

Wlad later had an independent doctor check his blood and urine. Again, nothing fishy but the doctor suggested he could have been poisoned, but there was no evidence. Wlad had the test transferred to another facility and the samples got lost.

In my opinion, Wlad gassed. He than got hurt and couldn't recover. His chin was always suspect, and his powers of recovery were as well. I think those things have been well documented.

The possibility he could have been poisoned is there, but I just don't see it. Wlad was a great fighter after his losses to Sanders and Brewster because he learned how to pace himself better and hold more.

What do you think? Was this fight fixed?

- -Brewster never landed a clean shot.

90% of Wlad shots were poleax jabs, the least taxing punch a fighter has. Any time Brew got close, Wlad introduced Manny's grab and walk em to the ropes. It was the easiest fight Wlad ever had.

Why was betting shut down for a week before because of a gross anomaly spike in the betting.

At this point, I'd say you're Russian phobic as most were and still are no matter the Ks ain't Rooskies. HBO banned them, the two best record setting heavies of their era.

There was nothing in the fight until the drug delivery altered reality. Do deny the thousands of years of drug poisonings that shaped history too?

Time to study up son. Pollyanna and the tooth fairy are fiction, not the truth.

I had the manager come look at the replay of the last two rds, and he thought it a drugging. He used to work the corner of Sugar Shane, so he knows the dirty dirt of boxing.

[JAB5239]

- -Brewster never landed a clean shot.

90% of Wlad shots were poleax jabs, the least taxing punch a fighter has. Any time Brew got close, Wlad introduced Manny's grab and walk em to the ropes. It was the easiest fight Wlad ever had.

Why was betting shut down for a week before because of a gross anomaly spike in the betting.

At this point, I'd say you're Russian phobic as most were and still are no matter the Ks ain't Rooskies. HBO banned them, the two best record setting heavies of their era.

There was nothing in the fight until the drug delivery altered reality. Do deny the thousands of years of drug poisonings that shaped history too?

Time to study up son. Pollyanna and the tooth fairy are fiction, not the truth.

I had the manager come look at the replay of the last two rds, and he thought it a drugging. He used to work the corner of Sugar Shane, so he knows the dirty dirt of boxing.

I stopped reading after you said Brewster never landed a clean shot. Maybe you should watch the fight again and check out the hook Brewster rocks him with, with 45 seconds left in round 5. Or maybe I'm just making that up? 😆

[Sadiqkingofko]

I don't think he was drugged either and I'm a Wlad fan, he just got gassed and Brewster is a world level finisher, none of the top 10 would lose to Brewster right now tho

[JAB5239]

Lol, betting was shut down a week before the fight, huh?


Dr Margaret Goodman, the chairwoman of the Nevada State Athletic Commission's medical advisory board and Nevada's chief ringside physician was in the ring and attending to Klitschko seconds after the referee stopped the fight. Her initial diagnosis of a Grade 3 concussion was confirmed at the hospital after further tests. Goodman was skeptical of the theory that Klitschko had been drugged.[13]

As a result of the circumstances that surrounded the fight, FBI started an investigation.[14] Judd Bernstein, the lawyer representing Klitschko, suggested that he was a victim of an ongoing fight fixing in Las Vegas (which also included fraudulent medical reports), which was investigated by FBI at the time.[15] Bernstein, along with some other journalists, pointed out that in the last 48 hours before the beginning of the fight, the betting odds in favor of Klitschko rapidly dropped from 11-to-1 to 3,5-to-1.[16][17][7][18] Some observers believed that such a massive drop in betting odds was due to Don King betting a large sum on Brewster's victory, however these speculations were never confirmed.[

[HOUDINI563]

Brewster through a right left combo in the fifth catching Wlad on the chin cleanly with that hook. He never recovered from that blow and he was stopped the very next round. This bout in many ways mirrored his bout with Purrity. In both bouts he gassed by punching himself out by going for the KO and his opponent fighting back to win.

There is no poisoning, no drugging unless those substances are found. They weren’t so those they believe otherwise are living in a dreamland. Wlad did not have the will to win when confronted with adversity. Instead he collapsed in sections.

[Willie Pep 229]

There was some talk from a poster here that the first Wlad-Brewster fight was fixed and Wlad was drugged.

I chose to rewatch the fight again and get reacclimated with it.

From what I saw, Wlad was loading up on everything and teeing off on Brewster. But you could see as early as the second round he was starting to get tired, and the HBO announcers were commenting on it as well. By the middle of the fifth he was exhausted and Brewster caught and hurt him bad and Wlad was unable to recover and the fight was waived off.

After the fight Wlad went to the hospital and his blood sugar was nearly twice the norm. No steroids were detected, but I've long suspected him of using steroids. My own opinion of course, with no proof.

Wlad later had an independent doctor check his blood and urine. Again, nothing fishy but the doctor suggested he could have been poisoned, but there was no evidence. Wlad had the test transferred to another facility and the samples got lost.

In my opinion, Wlad gassed. He than got hurt and couldn't recover. His chin was always suspect, and his powers of recovery were as well. I think those things have been well documented.

The possibility he could have been poisoned is there, but I just don't see it. Wlad was a great fighter after his losses to Sanders and Brewster because he learned how to pace himself better and hold more.

What do you think? Was this fight fixed?

Looking closer at the blood and urine samples it looks like the initial (common protocol) test showed nothing. When Wald's camp went looking months later (beginning of the law suit) they found the samples gone, calling them (su****iously) 'lost.' -- I doubt there was any mechanism in place for the samples to be persevered and were likely disposed of once the original test came back clean. I don't see that as su****ious.

I didn't find (yet) any reference to an independent doctor, but there was a suit, so I am sure there was.

[billeau2]

- -Brewster never landed a clean shot.

90% of Wlad shots were poleax jabs, the least taxing punch a fighter has. Any time Brew got close, Wlad introduced Manny's grab and walk em to the ropes. It was the easiest fight Wlad ever had.

Why was betting shut down for a week before because of a gross anomaly spike in the betting.

At this point, I'd say you're Russian phobic as most were and still are no matter the Ks ain't Rooskies. HBO banned them, the two best record setting heavies of their era.

There was nothing in the fight until the drug delivery altered reality. Do deny the thousands of years of drug poisonings that shaped history too?

Time to study up son. Pollyanna and the tooth fairy are fiction, not the truth.

I had the manager come look at the replay of the last two rds, and he thought it a drugging. He used to work the corner of Sugar Shane, so he knows the dirty dirt of boxing.

YOu know those two hours a month when you don't drink yourself into a semi-coma? watch the fight then.

By the way some people have very sensative blood sugar, and it can spike and make you useless. Its possible Vlad has a spike...no poison needed.