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  • billeau2
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    #11
    Originally posted by JAB5239
    Lol, better was shut down a week before the fight, huh?


    Dr Margaret Goodman, the chairwoman of the Nevada State Athletic Commission's medical advisory board and Nevada's chief ringside physician was in the ring and attending to Klitschko seconds after the referee stopped the fight. Her initial diagnosis of a Grade 3 concussion was confirmed at the hospital after further tests. Goodman was skeptical of the theory that Klitschko had been drugged.[13]

    As a result of the circumstances that surrounded the fight, FBI started an investigation.[14] Judd Bernstein, the lawyer representing Klitschko, suggested that he was a victim of an ongoing fight fixing in Las Vegas (which also included fraudulent medical reports), which was investigated by FBI at the time.[15] Bernstein, along with some other journalists, pointed out that in the last 48 hours before the beginning of the fight, the betting odds in favor of Klitschko rapidly dropped from 11-to-1 to 3,5-to-1.[16][17][7][18] Some observers believed that such a massive drop in betting odds was due to Don King betting a large sum on Brewster's victory, however these speculations were never confirmed.[
    Vlad was poisoned alright... by the toxic effect of Brewster lighting his cringing A ss up! lol.

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    • JAB5239
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      #12
      Originally posted by billeau2
      vlad was poisoned alright... By the toxic effect of brewster lighting his cringing a ss up! Lol.
      ......😆.......

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      • JAB5239
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        #13
        Originally posted by Willie Pep 229
        Looking closer at the blood and urine samples it looks like the initial (common protocol) test showed nothing. When Wald's camp went looking months later (beginning of the law suit) they found the samples gone, calling them (su****iously) 'lost.' -- I doubt there was any mechanism in place for the samples to be persevered and were likely disposed of once the original test came back clean. I don't see that as su****ious.

        I didn't find (yet) any reference to an independent doctor, but there was a suit, so I am sure there was.
        I may have read it on Boxrec about the other doctor. Let me go back and look.

        Boxrec it was. Here it is.....

        After that, Wladimir demanded the tests taken by the Medical Center of South Nevada and the Nevada Quest Diagnostics to be passed on to Dr. Robert Wow for further research. However, the tests disappeared.

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          #14
          Originally posted by QueensburyRules
          - -Brewster never landed a clean shot.

          90% of Wlad shots were poleax jabs, the least taxing punch a fighter has. Any time Brew got close, Wlad introduced Manny's grab and walk em to the ropes. It was the easiest fight Wlad ever had.

          Why was betting shut down for a week before because of a gross anomaly spike in the betting.

          At this point, I'd say you're Russian phobic as most were and still are no matter the Ks ain't Rooskies. HBO banned them, the two best record setting heavies of their era.

          There was nothing in the fight until the drug delivery altered reality. Do deny the thousands of years of drug poisonings that shaped history too?

          Time to study up son. Pollyanna and the tooth fairy are fiction, not the truth.

          I had the manager come look at the replay of the last two rds, and he thought it a drugging. He used to work the corner of Sugar Shane, so he knows the dirty dirt of boxing.
          You know Queenie... I just rewatched and I have to say there are some things that make me think, and I want to apologize to you because your theory, at least to me, seems realistic and I will tell you what I am thinking:

          1) the obvious. brewster caught Klitsko with one good shot that knocked him down... that was it. So while brewster did catch him, he did not catch him mutch at all.

          2) It really bugs me how the damn announcers all seemed to fortell that Vlad was tired. They started saying this over and over again a round and a half before he started to tire. its really kind of obvious... I tried to ignore it, but it really makes me think. then lo and behold Klitsko tires and cannot make it.

          I apologize and have to be honest with myself here... I can't say there was a conspiracy for sure, but from the announcers , the odds, and Vlad's sudden demise... and it was sudden, despite what the announcers said, it is very fishy. I did not notice this so much the first times I watched the fight.

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            #15
            Originally posted by JAB5239
            ......😆.......
            Lol unfortunately I rewatched carefully and man... It really seems like they were calling the action before the action happened. I am on the fence about this one.

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              #16
              Conspiracies involving the announcers of the fight would never remain a secret for long. It was a legit ko.

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                #17
                Originally posted by JAB5239
                I may have read it on Boxrec about the other doctor. Let me go back and look.

                Boxrec it was. Here it is.....

                After that, Wladimir demanded the tests taken by the Medical Center of South Nevada and the Nevada Quest Diagnostics to be passed on to Dr. Robert Wow for further research. However, the tests disappeared.
                Yea, that's what I am referring to (I think).

                But I wonder what "After that" is suppose to mean.

                Wald gave blood two days after the fight.

                It looks like Wald's people didn't start to challenge officially until May (from a fight that took place on April 10th.) Then didn't file actual suit until some time after that. (Maybe I am wrong about this.)

                But if this is the timing then you have to ask why would they (Nevada) hold on to such tests? I don't think they 'disappeared" I think they were dumped. (I assume the paper work survived but not the pee.)

                I mean is there somewhere, where all the test samples from the great fights of the last 50 years are stored? A Boxing Howard Hughes wet dream?

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Willie Pep 229
                  Yea, that's what I am referring to (I think).

                  But I wonder what "After that" is suppose to mean.

                  Wald gave blood two days after the fight.

                  It looks like Wald's people didn't start to challenge officially until May (from a fight that took place on April 10th.) Then didn't file actual suit until some time after that. (Maybe I am wrong about this.)

                  But if this is the timing then you have to ask why would they (Nevada) hold on to such tests? I don't think they 'disappeared" I think they were dumped. (I assume the paper work survived but not the pee.)

                  I mean is there somewhere, where all the test samples from the great fights of the last 50 years are stored? A Boxing Howard Hughes wet dream?
                  I'm not sure. But I have to believe if nothing comes back on their tests than there is no reason to hold on to these samples. I don't know the official protocol, but it doesn't seem like a conspiracy to me.

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                    #19
                    I rewatched the entire bout. Wlad, as he did with Purrity, punched himself out. Then when his opponent started to punch back Wlad was all in.

                    Brewster was also landing body blows which did not help.

                    Regarding comments of Wlad getting tired in the third round their were two. Larry Merchant mentioned Wlad tendency to tire referencing the Purrity bout and Roy Jones stated Wlad was getting tired later in the round.

                    Again a conspiracy so deep and wide that it included the HBO announcers is not going to happen. Conspiracies are rare because as you have more individuals involved than 1 the more likely someone will talk. No conspiracies here and this is revealed by the drug tests post bout being negative.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by HOUDINI563
                      I rewatched the entire bout. Wlad, as he did with Purrity, punched himself out. Then when his opponent started to punch back Wlad was all in.

                      Brewster was also landing body blows which did not help.

                      Regarding comments of Wlad getting tired in the third round their were two. Larry Merchant mentioned Wlad tendency to tire referencing the Purrity bout and Roy Jones stated Wlad was getting tired later in the round.

                      Again a conspiracy so deep and wide that it included the HBO announcers is not going to happen. Conspiracies are rare because as you have more individuals involved than 1 the more likely someone will talk. No conspiracies here and this is revealed by the drug tests post bout being negative.
                      To add to this, the FBI also investigated and came up with nothing. At least not that I can find.

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