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  • joseph5620
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    #41
    Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni
    Stewart made his fighters great at fighting the distance. He really taught them to rely on their strengths than resort to their instincts. That may not have happened every time, but it was definitely a theme of his work over the decades.



    This.

    He was too tense. That;s also bad for responding to concussive force. We've all heard about drunk drivers surviving serious crashes.

    When Boxing, Wrestling, playing Baseball or Football, we're taught to relax, loosen up. If you're stiff every ball will zoom past you, not matter how fixed on it you are. Even if you catch the ball , the likelihood of finding the base and then getting the ball to the catcher drop off dramatically if you're cold and stiff.

    With big guys, it's really important that they get warmed up before hitting the mat. It don't matter if the idiot ate two hoagies before the match. They're not the gymansts that the lower weight guys are, but their tendencies to get exhausted AND INJURED is actually increased if they don't drill before getting to the mat - just like doing cardio before you lift.

    Sanders who KO'd Wlad would have stopped most HEavyweights. It's to Wlad's credit that he was stopped on his feet after taking that barrage. Really, outside of Ali on his theoretical best night, I can't imagine any Heavyweight up until that time fairing any better against Sanders. But the fully furnished Steward product of several years later almost certainly wouldn't have been ambushed like that.
    That's funny considering that Sanders never beat a top 10 heavyweight outside of Wlad.


    Your statement is ridiculous and a lie.

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    • HOUDINI563
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      #42
      Another statement pulled out of a Rusty ass!!!

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        #43
        Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni
        Maybe leave the talk about Boxing to people who've actually Boxed? DO we try to tell you how Pajama Parties work?

        Sanders had a laser left cross and really poured it on. If you had ever Boxed, you'd realize how difficult a southpaw is to anticipate. Even if you KNOW it's coming, to actually prepare and counter it is very difficult. Few Heavyweights have ever demonstrated the skillset or resilience for withstanding that offense.

        Maybe watch fights, then talk?



        Johnson clinched for dear life. Ali held the back of the head. Lewis ran like a *****.

        So Wlad's clinching bothers you? His jab was exquisite. His footwork was exquisite. His hook was wonderful. I get it. That's all lost on someone who thinks fighting is robot dancing and braking pine board. It's kinda hard to do a Kata that includes clinching, huh? But your regular caricatures of Wlad and your desperate defense of Liston show how small and insecure you are. Successful people suck, the losers are the ones that really deserve celebration.











        That being said, if you wanna give us a run down of how Cerafino Garcia gave Wlad the beating of his life, I am happy to hear it! Lay it on us!
        I fought plenty in the ring, and if I had misspoke about concepts we used I would have been called out. You do not even know what it is to cut the ring off and you claim you boxed? B ulls hit. Ohh! Rusty learned about Southpaws!! hooray! Your an expert now! Hey Moron...Understanding the dangers posed by a Southpaw is fairly rudimentary...Sorry to burst your bubble. Kind of like cutting the ring off?

        "Few heavyweights have demonstrated the resiliance..." to fight a southpaw?! Really? How few? Its part of boxing, there are technical adjustments that are taught, like keeping the lead foot to the outside, etc.

        I know what happened! Rusty? The Simpsons is not a boxing match ok? Its the thing with the ring, and the men with big Gloves... got it?

        Vlad had/has a great jab and excellent form/power on his punches. No doubt. he even gets mentioned regarding a short list on the jab, I have no problem with that. NO, his footwork is not outstanding, and his brother, on a performance basis, despite not having the form of Vlad, IMO was better. Vlad's clinching was horrid. If fighters today had the chops on fighting inside he would pay more...and cringing is a really bad habit, an amatuerish habit... But you knew that right Rusty?

        I don't regularly characterize Vlad beyond describing what I think his strength and weaknesses are. I also have my opinion about him... Is that a problem? should not be for a moron who only has opinions which are based on antiquated racial stereotypes, hyperbole, and lack of information.

        Example: Sanders. Sanders was an excellent fighter. But as you always screw up... he was a journeyman! How about Ross Purity? Decent fighter... Excellent at cutting the ring off. Does not mean he is "better than every boxer before him in cutting the ring off." Your elevating journeymen fighters... I mean seriously.

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        • HOUDINI563
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          #44
          Fighting a southpaw is rudimentary. Jake LaMotta, a fighter you likened to “a bum”, exhibited wonderful ability to deal with Southpaws as just one example.

          Almost every statement you made was incorrect. Johnson’s inside game was not clinching. He was controlling the offense of fighters whose game was inside fighting. This was all very clever blocking and parrying techniques designed to take the power out of his opponents blows via taps and pushes on elbows and arms.

          Study up. Stop making everything up as you go.

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          • QueensburyRules
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            #45


            - -Not sure how this got misplaced, but everything about this fight turns dirty the week before.

            100% more evidence Wlad was drugged than the 10% evidence Gans thru the McG fight.

            Sad to see this lot still singing in soprano after the Kbro era finished.

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            • Rusty Tromboni
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              #46
              Originally posted by joseph5620
              That's funny considering that Sanders never beat a top 10 heavyweight outside of Wlad.


              Your statement is ridiculous and a lie.
              That was his career high.

              I can't think of any other fight where he looked that focused.

              There is also, of course, the problem of him seldom securing fights against top tier opponents.

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                #47
                Originally posted by HOUDINI563
                Another statement pulled out of a Rusty ass!!!
                Shhh... don't post during your nap time.

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                • JAB5239
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni
                  Maybe leave the talk about Boxing to people who've actually Boxed? DO we try to tell you how Pajama Parties work?

                  Sanders had a laser left cross and really poured it on. If you had ever Boxed, you'd realize how difficult a southpaw is to anticipate. Even if you KNOW it's coming, to actually prepare and counter it is very difficult. Few Heavyweights have ever demonstrated the skillset or resilience for withstanding that offense.

                  Maybe watch fights, then talk?



                  Johnson clinched for dear life. Ali held the back of the head. Lewis ran like a *****.

                  So Wlad's clinching bothers you? His jab was exquisite. His footwork was exquisite. His hook was wonderful. I get it. That's all lost on someone who thinks fighting is robot dancing and braking pine board. It's kinda hard to do a Kata that includes clinching, huh? But your regular caricatures of Wlad and your desperate defense of Liston show how small and insecure you are. Successful people suck, the losers are the ones that really deserve celebration.











                  That being said, if you wanna give us a run down of how Cerafino Garcia gave Wlad the beating of his life, I am happy to hear it! Lay it on us!
                  Rusty, please tell us of your boxing experience. You know, gyms, people you've sparred with, weight class, references? Wow us with your experience as a fighter.

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                  • billeau2
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni
                    That was his career high.

                    I can't think of any other fight where he looked that focused.

                    There is also, of course, the problem of him seldom securing fights against top tier opponents.
                    yeah he was spectacular that night, as was Buster Douglas, How does that make him a fighter for the ages? Very talented fighter... You cannot make that jump though, not even close!

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                    • JAB5239
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by QueensburyRules
                      https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/n...ply&p=20748555

                      - -Not sure how this got misplaced, but everything about this fight turns dirty the week before.

                      100% more evidence Wlad was drugged than the 10% evidence Gans thru the McG fight.

                      Sad to see this lot still singing in soprano after the Kbro era finished.
                      There isn't any proof Wlad was drugged. And you've already lost all credibility on the topic after claiming Brewster never landed a clean shot.

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