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  • Originally posted by moneytheman View Post

    I know why he fought that way its how they trained videos prove im right and you know this you always have thats why you wont show me the fiction joe you talk of who is better skilled then the 70s-90s he doesnt exist you know he doesn't he only exist here
    Again, videos don't prove you right. In fact if you watch a wide variety of fighters it actually proves your ignorance. Tunney, Dempsey, Benny Leonard, Ross, Armstrong.....this is just a small sample of fighters that fought nothing of the way you claim. Louis fought that was by design to draw his opponents into range. These are irrefutable facts proven by video.

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    • Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post

      There are some good stations on YouTube that might challenge your ridged way of thinking. Would you like me to post some links for your research? Also, can you provide the group here with a few examples of active fighters who represent being better at their weight than anyone who fought prior to 1990? I'm always trying to learn new things too!
      No cause I dont think anything I dont know why I have to keep repeating that quote to you slow people

      I see those era's are trash compared no words can change how they look

      I wont answer that cause your trying to flip the topic the topic is outdated eras pre 70s
      Its mutiple 90s-80s that could be great this era
      Last edited by Ascended; 08-23-2022, 03:37 PM.

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      • Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

        Again, videos don't prove you right. In fact if you watch a wide variety of fighters it actually proves your ignorance. Tunney, Dempsey, Benny Leonard, Ross, Armstrong.....this is just a small sample of fighters that fought nothing of the way you claim. Louis fought that was by design to draw his opponents into range. These are irrefutable facts proven by video.
        Nothing like I claim you say well I haven't seen any of those exact styles since then did you know that

        Why is it its no mid/high level fighter who fights like those dudes its none at all not exactly like they were why is that and if you wanna say it is name the men it hasn't been none since those era's why jab

        He fought that way you said no they all mostly fought that way like him
        Last edited by Ascended; 08-23-2022, 03:45 PM.

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        • Originally posted by moneytheman View Post

          Nothing like I claim you say well I haven't seen any of those exact styles since then did you know that

          Why is it its no mid/high level fighter who fights like those dudes its none at all not exactly like they were why is that and if you wanna say it is name the men

          He fought that way you said no they all mostly fought that way like him
          Is this even in English? You said they all fought like him. By the way.... video proof shows Vitaly Klitschko fought in almost the same exact style as Primo Carnera. All you need to do is watch the video. Does that make them the same fighter, or is Vits just a poor example of a "modern" fighter?

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          • Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

            Is this even in English? You said they all fought like him. By the way.... video proof shows Vitaly Klitschko fought in almost the same exact style as Primo Carnera. All you need to do is watch the video. Does that make them the same fighter, or is Vits just a poor example of a "modern" fighter?
            I wont give you much response to that quote you seen other crazy liars say who pretend to be blind on vit and car i have no reason to

            And my question wasnt answered cause I said exact style of those outdated era mid/high I said men skilled and you gave no answer waiting for the men who was exact
            Last edited by Ascended; 08-23-2022, 04:14 PM.

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            • Originally posted by moneytheman View Post

              I wont give you much response to that quote you seen other crazy liars say who pretend to be blind on vit and car i have no reason to

              And my question wasnt answered cause I said exact style of those outdated era mid/high I said men skilled and you gave no answer waiting for the men who was exact
              Pretend to be blind? It's right there in ANY video you watch of him and Carnera. So does Vits suck, or was Carnera a misunderstood super fighter of his day and today?

              After we get thru discussing this we can move on to a Bernard Hopkins\Charley Burley conversation and how their styles were very similar defensively.

              You can't even get thru these questions and you want me to name more skilled opponents of these fighters? Why, so you can just make baseless claims? Get thru this and we can move on to that.

              Louis destroyed Carnera. Carnera and Vits have very similar styles and size. So why wouldn't Louis be able to hang with today's fighters again?

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              • Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

                Pretend to be blind? It's right there in ANY video you watch of him and Carnera. So does Vits suck, or was Carnera a misunderstood super fighter of his day and today?

                After we get thru discussing this we can move on to a Bernard Hopkins\Charley Burley conversation and how their styles were very similar defensively.

                You can't even get thru these questions and you want me to name more skilled opponents of these fighters? Why, so you can just make baseless claims? Get thru this and we can move on to that.

                Louis destroyed Carnera. Carnera and Vits have very similar styles and size. So why wouldn't Louis be able to hang with today's fighters again?
                Yea pretend to be blind cause car was stiff and basic compared to vit I can see you cant see good you know that we went through this mutiple times your vision is bad

                What your seeing is similar stance thats the only thing they had in common vit picked shots way better and used more angles and wasnt stiff your comparison is blind like I told you so no vit is no compare other then stance

                vit would destroy joe and he knew how to use his size car didnt do that either

                Vit is put in h2h dream matches with the best cause of his skill and toughness that basic ver you compared isnt and is made to be a joke of by people like me he wouldnt never beat any dudes vit fought

                Now car in his own era or before his time yea he would and was dangerous to others
                Last edited by Ascended; 08-23-2022, 08:35 PM.

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                • Originally posted by moneytheman View Post

                  Yea pretend to be blind cause car was stiff and basic compared to vit I can see you cant see good you know that we went through this mutiple times your vision is bad

                  vit would destroy joe and he knew how to use his size car didnt do that either
                  Please put me on ignore. It would be an honor.

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                  • Originally posted by moneytheman View Post

                    Yea pretend to be blind cause car was stiff and basic compared to vit I can see you cant see good you know that we went through this mutiple times your vision is bad

                    What your seeing is similar stance thats the only thing they had in common vit picked shots way better and used more angles and wasnt stiff your comparison is blind like I told you so no vit is no compare other then stance

                    vit would destroy joe and he knew how to use his size car didnt do that either

                    Vit is put in h2h dream matches with the best cause of his skill and toughness that basic ver you compared isnt and is made to be a joke of by people like me he wouldnt never beat any dudes vit fought

                    Now car in his own era or before his time yea he would and was dangerous to others
                    Same stance. Same herky Jerry movement. The both held there hands low. Vits threw more punches. Other than that they were pretty much the same as far as their styles and techniques are concerned. Watch them side by side and the video will show this, just as it shows plenty of fighters from past eras with exceptional movement and technique.

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                    • Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

                      Same stance. Same herky Jerry movement. The both held there hands low. Vits threw more punches. Other than that they were pretty much the same as far as their styles and techniques are concerned. Watch them side by side and the video will show this, just as it shows plenty of fighters from past eras with exceptional movement and technique.
                      None of what you said matters it cant go over vit using more angles and using his size or that he had better tech or him being way tougher to hurt and why are you telling me to watch then side by side when im not saying they were alike when anybody can see vit is like I said car was trash you need glasses

                      maybe ill put up a vid and show you the difference side by side since you cant see and your trying to make me blind like you seem to be

                      And why you only said 1 man and used a lie quote that idiots like you been saying for years is odd you been known quotes let alone ****** ones don't work with me is odd so why you used them i have no idea

                      I asked you specifically why its no mid/high level fighter who fought exactly like they did back then you didn't answer cause you know they wouldn't make pro and that's why it's never been done since the 50s

                      Thats Implying you know those dudes are trash compared from 70s-now
                      Last edited by Ascended; 08-24-2022, 09:20 AM.

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