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  • Originally posted by moneytheman View Post

    See how that idiot keeps repeating dumb quotes other dummies say it doesnt matter that lennox was dropped when he wasnt in shape

    Joe was dropped when he was in shape by trash fighters its no comparison both of those dudes who dropped len was more skilled the. The whole joe era only a idiot uses that fight as its a bad thing
    You're good! But do you think Louis or Marciano could make the top 10 today? Top 20? Where would they be? Asking for a friend what is in the hospital with a baqd one disease and is not expected to yuou know. He loves me to reasd thyis conversations on my lap top. We are both surprised at the good opinions.
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    • Originally posted by Porky Pig View Post

      You know what you are talking about. That is what I mean about knowledgeable on boxing. You are giving me fresh ideas, young man. I just asaume you are young because pack leaders usually are. By all means do not stop writing. I am very responsive to sound logic and thinkink such as you. Who do you think is the bsst heavyweight ever? Asking for a friend. Thank you.
      I dont know why Is the best hw cause I go off skills and I like mutiple so I could only give you my opinion but as far as resume I would say lennox he beat the most skilled and hard hitters and never was best at his best showed even when he did rematches he dominated the 2 who beat him

      he was a master outboxer mixed with power and good timing
      never seen anyone like him at hw who had all those tthings mixed in 1 who was a hw outboxer


      Or one could say mike who showed great defense with speed and went undefeated and never was beat until he wasnt in shape no other hw at hw I ever seen had his great defense combined with power and speed and great punch tech

      Or one could say louis having the title for years but then at the same time none of those dudes was really skilled for him to fight

      Ali beat the most legends

      im not a resume type as I said uptop so either of these are good picks for the best as far as resume to me lennox is the best

      Its nice to see somebody here who isnt crazy pretending to be blind acting as if we don't have videos of advanced fighters since the 70s
      Last edited by Ascended; 08-21-2022, 09:16 PM.
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      • Originally posted by Porky Pig View Post

        You're good! But do you think Louis or Marciano could make the top 10 today? Top 20? Where would they be? Asking for a friend what is in the hospital with a baqd one disease and is not expected to yuou know. He loves me to reasd thyis conversations on my lap top. We are both surprised at the good opinions.
        No I dont think anything I know for a fact they wouldn't way to stiff and outdated they would have to advance trainers wouldnt let them leave the gym until they upgraded ali even seen this he mocked Joe's era that's how bad it looked compared to his

        Its fighters who have fought like rock and joe but more advanced but keyword is more advanced

        I cant assume how joe and rock would do since its no video of them being advanced which is why I cant place them on a rank they wouldnt make pro as I said without training to be more advanced
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        • Originally posted by moneytheman View Post

          No I dont think anything I know for a fact they wouldn't way to stiff and outdated they would have to advance trainers wouldnt let them leave the gym until they upgraded ali even seen this he mocked Joe's era that's how bad it looked compared to his

          Its fighters who have fought like rock and joe but more advanced but keyword is more advanced

          I cant assume how joe and rock would do since its no video of them being advanced which is why I cant place them on a rank they wouldnt make pro as I said without training to be more advanced
          It is hard to give up Marciano or Louis rigjht away. I was taught they were the best. I will think of it right away.

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          • Originally posted by Porky Pig View Post

            It is hard to give up Marciano or Louis rigjht away. I was taught they were the best. I will think of it right away.
            Being taught is usually by a person stuck in time when you watch and compare its easy to see they wasnt close way to outdated

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            • Originally posted by Porky Pig View Post

              It is hard to give up Marciano or Louis rigjht away. I was taught they were the best. I will think of it right away.
              They are some of the best. Add Ali to that mix. Boxing is a very old sport, many think it peaked as far as combat goes, a while ago.

              i think the Louis, Ali, Rocky combo is a good place to start. Styles make fights and anyone can lose.

              Its so long ago these guys were fighting that people can’t comprehend who they are anymore, but these were real fighters.

              TV coverage and marketing has created more “stars” but its important to judge them based on what they actually accomplished in the ring.

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              • Originally posted by moneytheman View Post

                Being taught is usually by a person stuck in time when you watch and compare its easy to see they wasnt close way to outdated
                Why don't you stop poisoning poor ol' helpless Porky's mind? He is a noob and doesn't know you grow on the forum's underbelly like fungus.

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                • Originally posted by them_apples View Post

                  They are some of the best. Add Ali to that mix. Boxing is a very old sport, many think it peaked as far as combat goes, a while ago.

                  i think the Louis, Ali, Rocky combo is a good place to start. Styles make fights and anyone can lose.

                  Its so long ago these guys were fighting that people can’t comprehend who they are anymore, but these were real fighters.

                  TV coverage and marketing has created more “stars” but its important to judge them based on what they actually accomplished in the ring.
                  nothing to not understand you crazy idiot its video comparing how they fought from then and compare like it's a video comparing ali and louis era anybody with good vision can see Ali's era used more angles and were way smoother in their upper and lower body movement

                  none of the other stuff you said matters cause they would have to have the advances before the other stuff comes into play so your slow ontop of being crazy

                  You can come in a gym and say you wanna fight like a louis conn max or a Robinson/dempsey liston ali Frazier they wont teach you those old styles as they were you will be taught similar to those styles but way more advanced at it

                  So if the people in gym see that that crap wouldn't work that means they know you could be injured fast trying to use it or die trying to use those outdated crap techniques with a way more advanced one you idiot

                  causes if you crazies were right why is it its nobody who fought as stiff and simple as they did in the dempsey/conn era its nobody who made it to mid card let alone high level who fought like thats nobody ever since those era's that's not a coincidence you idiot so your trolling me does you no good but expose you like I always have even before I talked to you by talking to other crazy idiots like you

                  So stop the bull you crazy person your the one who cant see and plays act like your blind and make a fighter fight different then he is on video your idiot

                  You crazy people pick old fighters cause your crazy or have bad vision or acting like you have bad vision or its a combo of all

                  none of the people you pick have any advances that can be shown on video its all made up in your mind i know its madeup cause I asked you crazy people since last year to prove me wrong by video you refuse to cause it doesn't exist

                  And yea if you did talk to a coach which you didn't it would make sense him saying people would be scared to get hit figting like that as I explained anybody fighting with those trash outdated style would be injured or die using that with a more advanced fighter to many times but since you didn't cause he would tell you exactly what I told you in a nicer way your lies don't matter

                  Or if you did talk to him you told him your a fan of those outdated era's so he told you some crap to not hurt your feelings

                  Those people in louis/dempsey/ eras in-between would all be destroyed by any mid-high 70s-90s fighter they wouldnt even allow it to save the health of those fighters

                  And that quote of styles is a lie you idiot follower its lots of matches that been won cause of a size and skill advantage
                  Last edited by Ascended; 08-22-2022, 11:33 AM.
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                  • Moneytheman seems to be the man to listen to. He knows even more than a moderator 0f what I can see.

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                    • Originally posted by Porky Pig View Post
                      Moneytheman seems to be the man to listen to. He knows even more than a moderator 0f what I can see.
                      Oh yes he is the kiddie no doubt about it!
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