Why have modern fighters not evolved to be better than SRR

[Ascended]

This is from earlier this week watching on my laptop and srr side by side and a man named Clemente from 1978s vs danny is 125 and is moving way more fluid and way more advanced he is using feints on top of able to combo faster on top of using lateral movement

how about carlos a middleweight as ray was using lateral movement smoothly able to pick off shots from range smoothly and duck and counter smoothly

Srr looks sloopy stiff making mutiple mistakes im watchin him now vs joe he looks nothing like these guys so tell me what i need to research anything at when im watching and saying exactly what i see and dont
ray and this era looks to be very over extending alot of times to the body and are very hesitant in most movements

they dont fight from range much,they leave themselves open alot
alot of times will just throw to the body and not protect themselves the carlos era was able to protect to body with 1 hand while punching to the body

they use mostly counters when up close,the lateral movement is very basic they dont seem to be able to punch from range while doing it smoothly they have to stop then punch most the time and their feet are mostly tiptoeing instead of carlos era where its like their a quarterback ready to throw the ball

these wasnt big name guys but they clearly as are way more advanced then rays era on top of being more fluid and made less mistakes


I named srr cause he is the so called most skilled ever in all divisions he fought in when he clearly isnt top 50 and he would be destroyed by those guys on top of others from 70s-now

Srr and that whole era all had the same flaws every person they all were stiff slow sloopy and way to basic only crazy idiots rank these guys skill level high when they all were novices

Only crazy idiots who are to lazy to watch full matches side by side like me says ray was that skilled when he clearly was a novice compared looks horrible

[Willie Pep 229]

"Joe Louis was a novice and SRR looks sloppy and stiff."

I hope you are just a bored troll because I can't fathom just how ****** u must actually be.

[QueensburyRules]

"Joe Louis was a novice and SRR looks sloppy and stiff."

I hope you are just a bored troll because I can't fathom just how ****** u must actually be.

- - show respect, Pep.

money could be elected next prez usa.

it happens every 4 years.

[them_apples]

- - show respect, Pep.

money could be elected next prez usa.

it happens every 4 years.

He very well could be if enough American's Identify with him.

[them_apples]

I think you have put up a very good case here. Well-balanced, unbiased... in fact so good, that you have won me over! How can I have been a boxing fan for so many years... without realizing, that modern boxers are skilless sissies, who would all get spanked by the oldtimers? But at last, I now get it... so better late than never, right? Anyway, thanks for the education.

sad that you probably didn’t even read it

[Bundana]

sad that you probably didnât even read it

Why on earth would I not read it? Your post was a reply to a post of mine - so of course I read it! Why do you want to lie about that?

Anyway, why do you suddenly bring this up now - more than 2 weeks later? Since you refuse to answer very simple questions, or back up your ridiculous ideas with any kind of evidence, I kind of thought we were done!

But if we're not... ok, then I have yet to see any kind of "proof" that:

Most new boxers have glass jaws.
Today's bravest/toughest fighters are nothing, when we're talking heart, compared to those from the 1940s.
Pad-work robs a fighter of his punching power.
Today there are no great fighters, because all the great trainers are gone.
Today's boxers have maybe 2 good rounds in them, and are gassed after 4.
Etc., etc.

All crazy stuff, that can't be verified one way or the other - but all part of your never-ending smear campaign, to make moderns look bad.


But if you really want to go over this again - how about starting with the modern glass jaws? What makes you come up with this silly idea? I'm sure, I'm not the only one who wants to know!

[them_apples]

Why on earth would I not read it? Your post was a reply to a post of mine - so of course I read it! Why do you want to lie about that?

Anyway, why do you suddenly bring this up now - more than 2 weeks later? Since you refuse to answer very simple questions, or back up your ridiculous ideas with any kind of evidence, I kind of thought we were done!

But if we're not... ok, then I have yet to see any kind of "proof" that:

Most new boxers have glass jaws.
Today's bravest/toughest fighters are nothing, when we're talking heart, compared to those from the 1940s.
Pad-work robs a fighter of his punching power.
Today there are no great fighters, because all the great trainers are gone.
Today's boxers have maybe 2 good rounds in them, and are gassed after 4.
Etc., etc.

All crazy stuff, that can't be verified one way or the other - but all part of your never-ending smear campaign, to make moderns look bad.


But if you really want to go over this again - how about starting with the modern glass jaws? What makes you come up with this silly idea? I'm sure, I'm not the only one who wants to know!

relax that wasn’t an attack. I come in peace

[markusmod]

He very well could be if enough American's Identify with him.

Agreed.

[Marchegiano]

I've been reading a lot of the banned user Marchegiano's threads. That guy had some really well made points when it came to big picture things and in this case I think he;s got it about right. Boxing works in cycles not progression toward a higher level. What sells is how people fight. For example, RJJ is one of the greatests but skill-wise RJJ did a lot wrong on purpose and both won and sold based on his genetic gifts.

[ShoulderRoll]

I've been reading a lot of the banned user Marchegiano's threads. That guy had some really well made points when it came to big picture things and in this case I think he;s got it about right. Boxing works in cycles not progression toward a higher level. What sells is how people fight. For example, RJJ is one of the greatests but skill-wise RJJ did a lot wrong on purpose and both won and sold based on his genetic gifts.

I hear that the banned user Marchegiano was a flamer.