is Lennox Lewis overrated on boxing forums

[billeau2]

Lewis has a slew of guys that looked like viable threats and impressive before lennox crushed them... Some may have turned out to be nothing but hype, but at the time of the fight, many thought these guys were dangerous

Exactly.....Briggs, Golata, Grant to name few. And Lewis was dominant agianst them as well.

[IronDanHamza]

You have got to be kidding.

Why's that?

Is Lewis resume so good that I must be kidding?

What's so good about it?

He doesn't have that many overly impressive wins.

[IronDanHamza]

Exactly.....Briggs, Golata, Grant to name few. And Lewis was dominant agianst them as well.

Briggs, Golota, Grant.

Wow, I'm flabbergasted at this amazing trio.

[LacedUp]

Vlad has the longevity as champ. Lewis was a classy champion, not taking anything away from him. But Vlad is ahead of him by now. Especially if he keeps going a couple more years and unifies all titles.

But they have been champ the same amount of time? Only difference is that Lewis was undisputed champion and Wlad isn't.

Wlad is not ahead of Lewis - I can see Lwad establishing himself as a top champion, especially if he becomes undisputed. But he still really hasn't many worth remembering. What would really be good was if Fury and Wilder would fight each other for a shot at Wlad. That would genuinely be a good win then.

Also Lewis usually KO'd his biggest wins. Wlad has more decisions against his biggest opponents.

[LacedUp]

Briggs, Golota, Grant.

Wow, I'm flabbergasted at this amazing trio.

Many people at the time thought Morrison, Tua, Ruddock, Golota, Vitali, Mercer, Grant, Holyfield et al could beat Lewis.

In hindsight it might be funny, but it's still true.

How many of Wlad's opponents do we think genuinely had a chance? Haye? Povetkin?

That's about it.

[Scott9945]

From reading through the various boxing forums i'd say that Lennox Lewis is actually underrated, he gets a lot of unwarranted criticism usually by people with tedious little axes to grind.

At least this forum doesn't have anyone like that.

[billeau2]

Briggs, Golota, Grant.

Wow, I'm flabbergasted at this amazing trio.

you just made yourself look like an az Dan....no offense cause I like ya but did you read the context under which those fighters you are being cheeky about were mentioned? I also gave you the courtesy of not mentioning Lewis' resume cause you would know it....but since you asked: the type of wins I am referring too are Holyfield (arguably twice) Ruddock, Tua, Morrison Bruno and Vitali.

Like I said you have to be kidding, but I will do you the courtesy of not asking you to name comprable fighters Vlad has fought cause there are none...well he did lose to Sanders and once to Brewster....and he fought Sam Peter. Not much else there bud! Lewis has a much better resume than Vlad.

[billeau2]

Holyfield easily has the best record with the most notable men, Tyson second and then Lewis and Wlad!
Wlad's era is easily the weakest since the Marciano era but Wlad hasn't helped his status with some awfull performances against ordinary talents.
To me the greatest fighter out of these men is Holyfield his overall talent exceeds any of them. Tyson is easily the most exciting fighter and Lenox is the best of the oversized boxers.

Because Lewis could overwhelm a fighter like Ezzard Charles because of his
overall size advantage doesn't mean he's more talented.
I don't think of Lewis as a great fighter because he soimply isn't that highly skilled compared to a Charles. Size isn't a skill acquired it's a genetic advantage that not all tall men can take advantage of but it isn't a skill in itself.

Size does dictate styling and form and physcical ability is needed to perform
but a 6'6" man isn't going to be fighting in a crouch just as a shorter man won't be standing straight up woking in & out!

I think Evander is the greater fighter of the lot. At 6' 2" competing from 175 up to 225lbs he fought the best avalible men and fared extremely well and worked very hard to improve his skills throughout the years.
Tyson fought in great fights and for a time was a great fighter!
Same for Lennox yet I wouldn't consider his skill set to be as great.
To me Wlad is the lesser skilled individual however I give him credit for succeeding with his physcial attributes when his skill set isn't as high.

Ray.

The arguments for the talent and drive of Holyfield always make sense. I think just on psyhological grounds alone, what he managed with Mike, i.e. not being tentative was amazing. Another thing I noticed about Holyfield that when he really wanted to win a fight and not just mix it up he was very coachable. In the Bowe fight he won he boxed and when he beat Tyson he also as very much in synch with his corner.

[IronDanHamza]

Many people at the time thought Morrison, Tua, Ruddock, Golota, Vitali, Mercer, Grant, Holyfield et al could beat Lewis.

In hindsight it might be funny, but it's still true.

How many of Wlad's opponents do we think genuinely had a chance? Haye? Povetkin?

That's about it.

The only fighter you listed who was genuinely favoured to beat Lewis was Razor Ruddock.

So I think it's you that's looking back in hindsight.

[IronDanHamza]

you just made yourself look like an az Dan....no offense cause I like ya but did you read the context under which those fighters you are being cheeky about were mentioned? I also gave you the courtesy of not mentioning Lewis' resume cause you would know it....but since you asked: the type of wins I am referring too are Holyfield (arguably twice) Ruddock, Tua, Morrison Bruno and Vitali.

Like I said you have to be kidding, but I will do you the courtesy of not asking you to name comprable fighters Vlad has fought cause there are none...well he did lose to Sanders and once to Brewster....and he fought Sam Peter. Not much else there bud! Lewis has a much better resume than Vlad.

You're asking me to list fighers Wlad fought that compare to Frank Bruno and Tommy Morrison.

Why is it when Lewis apparent great resume gets citied, these dead average names are listed? Look at that list, are you impressed by that?

Morrison and Bruno are no better than Haye and Povetkin.

You've stated that Wlad was stopped by Saunders and Brewester. True, he was. But Lewis was stopped by McCall and Rahman.

I won't argue Lewis having a better resume than Wlad. Much better? Not really.