Where does Roy Jones rank?

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Which this thread clearly shows isn't the case.

How does roy even sniff top 20 if your going by actual resume and guys he fought and not h2h fantasy abilites


Literally doesn't have a major win for 9 years after toney

[Sugar Adam Ali]

I rewatched some RJJ fights the other night. I had forgotten how boring and what a disappointment he was in the ring. Pick a RJJ fight at random, and it is likely to be disappointing. He would not fight, and really does not belong to ATG because of his lack of fighting spirit. Other ATG's would have made the lilly-livered one fight.

He had no chin. He would have needed one against other ATG's.

Roy became very tentative in the ring and was willing to coast to a decision as oppose to inflict more harm to opponent.. Benn-McClellan fight really spooked roy and after that he was less likely to go for the kill... At least that's what I've heard.. Not sure if it's true

[soul_survivor]

Which this thread clearly shows isn't the case.

No its just shows u still think RJJ is upper echelon. His resume isn't even comparable to the top names of the last 20 years let alone last 50.

[IronDanHamza]

How does roy even sniff top 20 if your going by actual resume and guys he fought and not h2h fantasy abilites


Literally doesn't have a major win for 9 years after toney

He's not Top 20. Neither is anyone from the modern era.

Just repeating the same crap that's been debunked already.

Still no logical reason why its "after Toney"

[IronDanHamza]

No its just shows u still think RJJ is upper echelon. His resume isn't even comparable to the top names of the last 20 years let alone last 50.

His resume is clearly not only comparable to the top guys of the last 20 years it's one of, if not the best.

[K-DOGG]

Roy became very tentative in the ring and was willing to coast to a decision as oppose to inflict more harm to opponent.. Benn-McClellan fight really spooked roy and after that he was less likely to go for the kill... At least that's what I've heard.. Not sure if it's true

I would say it is true. All you have to do is look AF his bouts before Benn-McClellan and the ones after.

He was not the same.

[IronDanHamza]

No one is putting any of one guys but maybe floyd in a top 50 atg list..

Roy went 9 years in his prime and had no big fights, prior to that he had one major fight with toney..

His mw reign is pathetic,, just name the guys he defended against..

His super middle reign is just as weak, just name the guys he defended against


Lightheavy he beat a bunch of old faded names, or never has beens, or paper champs.

Heavy he beat one of the worst paper champs ever

Roy fought one guy in his prime that was p4p and that was toney...
Oscar, floyd, manny etc all have more than 1, way more than one...


I never realized one major fight makes a deep atg resume

Again, going over the same redundant points that have been debunked.

Your whole point was that those guys had better resumes than him.

Yet you critisize Roy's opponents call them "faded", "who did that title holder beat?" "Wasn't a major fight"

All whilst praising Lennox Lewis beating Shannon Briggs

This has been established months ago when you stopped replying to his thread.

[joseph5620]

Roy became very tentative in the ring and was willing to coast to a decision as oppose to inflict more harm to opponent.. Benn-McClellan fight really spooked roy and after that he was less likely to go for the kill... At least that's what I've heard.. Not sure if it's true

That's absolutely ridiculous. Post Benn-McClellan Jones blasted out Montel Griffin in one round, brutally beat up and stopped Richard Hall, broke Virgil Hill's ribs, ans stopped Merqui Sosa.

In the Hall fight Larry Merchant was angry at the referee for allowing Hall to take brutal flush shots before stopping the fight.

How is that "coasting and unwilling to inflict more harm?"

That's a total fabrication. Now it's gotten to the point where people are just making things up in this thread.

[joseph5620]

No its just shows u still think RJJ is upper echelon. His resume isn't even comparable to the top names of the last 20 years let alone last 50.

Make a list of all the resume's from the last 20 years that it's not comparable to. Don't just throw that out there without backing it up with names.

[IronDanHamza]

That's absolutely ridiculous. Post Benn-McClellan Jones blasted out Montel Griffin in one round, brutally beat up and stopped Richard Hall, broke Virgil Hill's ribs, ans stopped Merqui Sosa.

In the Hall fight Larry Merchant was angry at the referee for allowing Hall to take brutal flush shots before stopping the fight.

How is that "coasting and unwilling to inflict more harm?"

That's a total fabrication. Now it's gotten to the point where people are just making things up in this thread.

We got there pages ago.

We got there when "Prime Akinwande" "Prime McCall" and "Prime Shannon Briggs" are listed as "Major fights" whilst Jones blasting out Griffin is considered "coasting"

We got there when guys like Reggie Johnson get the "but who did he beat for his belt" treatment all whilst saying Jones should have fought JOHN DAVID JACKSON instead of Hopkins because he "was a beltholder"

This was all pages ago.

I assumed this debate was well and truley over pages ago.

Now it's reborn and not only reborn but reborn with the same crap that was shut down pages ago.