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  • #51
    Frazier loses.........

    I had to add additional feedback because some of you guys are disrespecting The Real Deal. Frazier was NOT stronger than Evander. If Evander can bully Tyson, why wouldn't he be able to bully Frazier if he wants? Number 2, he was a COMPLETE fighter. Use your brains guys. When a complete fighter fights a one dimensional fighter; who wins? There was nothing Frazier did better than Holyfield. NOTHING. Number 3, Holyfield was like Ivan Draggo from Rocky VI. He was a hybrid before his time. Boxing had/has never seen a heavyweight like Evander Holyfield. There is no way Frazier can beat him. You guys are insane. Evander continues to get disrespected and underestimated. Smh. Do some more homework because it's obvious that the little you've done, didn't educate you properly.

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    • #52
      Evander Holyfield would beat Joe Frazier with ease, control the ring tempo and force Joe to back up and possibly even TKO him in the mid rounds.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by GOD-FR33 View Post
        I had to add additional feedback because some of you guys are disrespecting The Real Deal. Frazier was NOT stronger than Evander. If Evander can bully Tyson, why wouldn't he be able to bully Frazier if he wants? Number 2, he was a COMPLETE fighter. Use your brains guys. When a complete fighter fights a one dimensional fighter; who wins? There was nothing Frazier did better than Holyfield. NOTHING. Number 3, Holyfield was like Ivan Draggo from Rocky VI. He was a hybrid before his time. Boxing had/has never seen a heavyweight like Evander Holyfield. There is no way Frazier can beat him. You guys are insane. Evander continues to get disrespected and underestimated. Smh. Do some more homework because it's obvious that the little you've done, didn't educate you properly.
        True but i think fraziers head movement is different to Tyson's and there wouldn't be any lunging and grappling, Frazier would stay very low and on holys chest, bobbing and occasionally getting hit with hooks or right hands but evander would have to work extremely hard to land a full combination. Yeh Strength is on evanders side but I think you need to remember relentlesness and conditioning of Frazier. Holyfield would definitely be feeling it in the late rounds, in a 15 round fight he would have to dig deeper than he's done before and I don't think he's got the power to ko Frazier. I don't think it's as clear cut as you make it sound, holyfield will eventually go to war with Frazier and he will need to keep it up until the final bell

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        • #54
          Originally posted by Red Cyclone View Post
          Evander Holyfield would beat Joe Frazier with ease, control the ring tempo and force Joe to back up and possibly even TKO him in the mid rounds.
          Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but no way Frazier goes out like that. You are either overrating Holyfield or severely underrating Frazier.

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          • #55
            I see this as a very even fight. Siding with evander because he dealt with Tyson's physical strength does not work for me. Frazier had way more mental toughness then Mike.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by Scott9945 View Post
              Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but no way Frazier goes out like that. You are either overrating Holyfield or severely underrating Frazier.
              Evander bullied Mike Tyson who is a far superior specimen than Frazier... Faster, stronger and more elusive perhaps not the same ring smarts but no way does Frazier come remotely close to beating Evander.

              Evander Holyfield is too crafty and the same shots that Evander was giving to Big George... You really think Frazier could take that?
              HELL NO!

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              • #57
                It comes down to whether evander can physically outmatch Frazier for good portions of the fight, if he can he wins, but if Frazier proves too relentless which I think he would when faced with a guy fairly close to his size, albeit a very strong one, the fight turns into a back and forth war and I see frazier shading it on activity

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                • #58
                  The NSB clowns that have suddenly poured into what was a good thread claiming it's an easy fight for whichever guy don't know **** about boxing ... go back to talking about floyd v manny, guys.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Red Cyclone View Post
                    Evander bullied Mike Tyson who is a far superior specimen than Frazier... Faster, stronger and more elusive perhaps not the same ring smarts but no way does Frazier come remotely close to beating Evander.

                    Evander Holyfield is too crafty and the same shots that Evander was giving to Big George... You really think Frazier could take that?
                    HELL NO!
                    Your opinion seems based on an over the hill Tyson being physically superior to a prime Joe Frazier. That is an illusion. If Holyfield had beaten Tyson before he went to prison, then your argument may have some substance. The Tyson that Holyfield beat hadn't been past the 3rd round in over five years. You really should watch some Joe Frazier fights.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Red Cyclone View Post
                      Evander bullied Mike Tyson who is a far superior specimen than Frazier... Faster, stronger and more elusive perhaps not the same ring smarts but no way does Frazier come remotely close to beating Evander.

                      Evander Holyfield is too crafty and the same shots that Evander was giving to Big George... You really think Frazier could take that?
                      HELL NO!
                      Your comparing joe to big George and tyson. Tyson was elusive but was not an inside fighter and would tire against holyfield when he had to lunge in from mid range and would not be effective in holyfields chest, he was more upright. Strength is a factor but so is styles, power, chin and conditioning in this fight. Qawi fight has been mentioned and that's the best example but just imagine qwai better timing better conditioning more relentless, always moving forward and wouldn't get lazy with his head movement. I don't see how this is a easy win for holyfield in anyway, he will have to throw a ton of punches in this fight. Even if there was a chance of Frazier going down, I wouldn't worry at all, he was still on his feet after getting knocked down six times by probably the most powerful onslaught a pressure guy could take. Holyfields facing a guy with a heart and will has big as his
                      Last edited by likeamulekick; 04-25-2014, 08:51 AM.

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