Joe Frazier vs Prime Evander Holyfield

[Ivich]

It comes down to styles, Frazier and Both would both Eat Holyfield up because Holyfield wouldn't do much in the way of staying on the outside. I see Holyfield not only losing but getting stopped.

Holyfield pressuring a ******* Mike Tyson isn't the best indicator of what would happen. Mike never showed any ability to fight inside, he always just stood there and held on. Holyfield and Mike also knew each other as they were on the same olympic team. With Frazier and Rocky both these guys are tougher dudes than Mike ever was, they aren't going to fold in half from a bit of pressure. Inside fighting was their specialty.

You're entitled to your opinion.Holyfield was a fine inside fighter,if he wasnt, he would never have beaten Bowe, one of the best of the big men at it.Bowe beats Rocky and Joe imo.

[Ascended]

It comes down to styles, Frazier and Marciano Both would both Eat Holyfield up because Holyfield wouldn't do much in the way of staying on the outside. I see Holyfield not only losing but getting stopped.

Holyfield pressuring a ******* Mike Tyson isn't the best indicator of what would happen. Mike never showed any ability to fight inside, he always just stood there and held on. Holyfield and Mike also knew eachother as they were on the same olympic team. With Frazier and Rocky both these guys are tougher dudes than Mike ever was, they aren't going to fold in half from a bit of pressure. Inside fighting was their specialty.

For the record Frazier never lost an inside fight, ever

It's nothing to not understand you crazy idiot its video comparing how they fought from then and compare like it's a video comparing ali and louis era anybody with good vision can see Ali's era used more angles and were way smoother in their upper and lower body movement

none of the other stuff you said matters cause they would have to have the advances before the other stuff comes into play so your slow ontop of being crazy

You can come in a gym and say you wanna fight like a louis conn max or a Robinson/dempsey liston ali Frazier they wont teach you those old styles as they were you will be taught similar to those styles but way more advanced at it

So if the people in gym see that that crap wouldn't work that means they know you could be injured fast trying to use it or die trying to use those outdated crap techniques with a way more advanced one you idiot

causes if you crazies were right why is it its nobody who fought as stiff and simple as they did in the dempsey/conn era its nobody who made it to mid card let alone high level who fought like thats nobody ever since those era's that's not a coincidence you idiot so your trolling me does you no good but expose you like I always have even before I talked to you by talking to other crazy idiots like you

So stop the bull you crazy person your the one who cant see and plays act like your blind and make a fighter fight different then he is on video you idiot

You crazy people pick old fighters cause your crazy or have bad vision or acting like you have bad vision or its a combo of all

none of the people you pick have any advances that can be shown on video its all made up in your mind i know its madeup cause I asked you crazy people since last year to prove me wrong by video you refuse to cause it doesn't exist

And yea if you did talk to a coach which you didn't it would make sense him saying people would be scared to get hit figting like that as I explained anybody fighting with those trash outdated style would be injured or die using that with a more advanced fighter to many times but since you didn't cause he would tell you exactly what I told you in a nicer way your lies don't matter

Or if you did talk to him you told him your a fan of those outdated era's so he told you some crap to not hurt your feelings

Those people in louis/dempsey/ eras in-between would all be destroyed by any mid-high 70s-90s fighter they wouldnt even allow it to save the health of those fighters

[Ascended]

You're entitled to your opinion.Holyfield was a fine inside fighter,if he wasnt, he would never have beaten Bowe, one of the best of the big men at it.Bowe beats Rocky and Joe imo.

He is a crazy idiot lots of matches aren't won off of style alone that ****** quote has been repeated for years and exposed as a lie years ago and its not a opinion that bowe destroys joe and rock its fact 1st round only a crazy idiot says those outdated fighters would stand a chance vs Holy

[Ivich]

He is a crazy idiot lots of matches aren't won off of style alone that ****** quote has been repeated for years and exposed as a lie years ago and its not a opinion that bowe destroys joe and rock its fact 1st round only a crazy idiot says those outdated fighters would stand a chance vs Holy

Thans for your insight

[Ascended]

Thans for your insight

Where was the Holyfield of rock's and Frazier time?? Cause I seen nobody like him then so agian saying those dudes beat him is idiotic

[Ivich]

Where was the Holyfield of rock's and Frazier time?? Cause I seen nobody like him then so agian saying those dudes beat him is idiotic

For me Holyfield beats Walcott,Charles,Marciano,Patterson,Johansson,Frazi er.That's pretty big doings imo.

[Ascended]

For me Holyfield beats Walcott,Charles,Marciano,Patterson,Johansson,Frazi er.That's pretty big doings imo.

Not impressive to me they are to outdated for him wouldn't be competitive

[Ivich]

Not impressive to me they are to outdated for him wouldn't be competitive

Each to their own opinions.

[Willow The Wisp]

He is a crazy idiot lots of matches aren't won off of style alone that ****** quote has been repeated for years and exposed as a lie years ago and its not a opinion that bowe destroys joe and rock its fact 1st round only a crazy idiot says those outdated fighters would stand a chance vs Holy

It's a celebration of divergent opinions! I gotta say though, if he's a bot, he's evolving. With further progress he'll be able to explan to us how, if
The Frazier who beat Ali is 25 years removed from the Holyfield who beat Tyson, and the Holyfield who beat Tyson is 23 years removed from the Ruiz who beat Joshua.
-And-
Holyfield is Better than Frazier besed on evolution of the sweet science.
Then....
How is Ruiz not better, and more evolved than Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Norton, Holmes, Tyson, Holyfield, Bowe, Lewis, etc?????
Or......
Has he chosen with unexplained coincidence that this "Evolution" suddenly has just stopped for this latest generation of heavyweights?

I'll tellyaz. I wish I could take one of those outdated top Heavyweights of the 70s, put him on ice for a couple decades, till he was fat, bald & old; then bring him back and drop him into Holyfield's era, and see if he had skills enough to recapture the World's Championship!!!!
Now THAT would certainly settle the evolution question as it pertains to these theories.

[Ascended]

It's a celebration of divergent opinions! I gotta say though, if he's a bot, he's evolving. With further progress he'll be able to explan to us how, if
The Frazier who beat Ali is 25 years removed from the Holyfield who beat Tyson, and the Holyfield who beat Tyson is 23 years removed from the Ruiz who beat Joshua.
-And-
Holyfield is Better than Frazier besed on evolution of the sweet science.
Then....
How is Ruiz not better, and more evolved than Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Norton, Holmes, Tyson, Holyfield, Bowe, Lewis, etc?????
Or......
Has he chosen with unexplained coincidence that this "Evolution" suddenly has just stopped for this latest generation of heavyweights?

I'll tellyaz. I wish I could take one of those outdated top Heavyweights of the 70s, put him on ice for a couple decades, till he was fat, bald & old; then bring him back and drop him into Holyfield's era, and see if he had skills enough to recapture the World's Championship!!!!
Now THAT would certainly settle the evolution question as it pertains to these theories.

That ****** quote doesn't work cause Andy isn't the only one who fights in this era as a whole they are more advanced then 70s dropping those 70s in holy era would see them destroyed