Joe frazier vs Wladamir Klitchko? POLL

[The_Demon]

ignore sc....

he bases al of his argumebts on athleticism and size and records....

he forgets about skill.

Its ironic,considering one of his favourite fighters is apparent Bernard Hopkins,who has never won fights based on physical assets,hence why he is still on top today

[The_Demon]

Are you suggesting Frazier would run away like Haye did?

Did i say that? you really didnt understand my post,is it that difficult?

[New England]

saying negrocute should get you an instaban in my opinion
at least a stern warning (no russell mora ****!!)
"once more and you're out of here"

some of the klistchko fans are racists
klitschko fans via the "complexion connection"

[SCtrojansbaby]

The only reason Ali was able to get away with that was because he could absorb a tremendous amount of punishment to his body, Frazier would let his hands go and **** to the body, can Wlad absorb the same amount of punishment Ali could? I think not.

Sure Frazier will a few good body shots in but for the most part once he gets inside the jab he is going to be engulfed immediately then muscled around the ring.

[BKM-2010]

Did i say that? you really didnt understand my post,is it that difficult?

You're saying Haye went the distance with Wlad because of movement when in fact it was because he was running/not engaging. Then you said Frazier would beat Wlad because he would do what Haye did but even better. Haye fought absolutely nothing like Frazier, at all, unless you mean the occasional bob and weave. Very incorrect comparison either way.

[bojangles1987]

Wlad by TKO.


Too big on top of having a great jab and ability to keep opponents at bay. Frazier had one great win against a slightly past-prime Ali. The other times it was competitive (Manilla), it was because Ali went completely into Rope-A-Dope mode. If anybody thinks that Wlad is just gonna make himself available and stand there and let a 5'11 guy beat him up on the inside, without even holding, you're mistaken.

Wlad has fought a lot more opponent who are closer to Frazier, then Frazier has fought someone close to Wlad's size and skill/style of fighting.

And in case you wanna invoke Brewster/Sanders, that's a period of time where I didn't consider Wlad to be at his peak prime. He had gaps in his style, primarily in wasting too much energy trying to move around like a Lighter-Weight fighter at times. He has since then closed those gaps and perfected his BIG-MAN style of fighting.

Not gonna get into the same kind of engagement on this, like I did on NSB threads. Tired of repeating myself. Plus, I hear someone is ban happy on this section if anyone is favoring a Klitschko in any type of scenario.

OVER AND OUT.

I'll just say that it really ruins your credibility on this subject that you think Ali 1 was the only great win Frazier had. It also ruins your credibility that you think Wlad has fought ANYONE that compares to Frazier at all.

Also, I know you tend to be a b*tch when people disagree with you sometimes, but don't bring people's family into it. Keep it civilized and make your point, if you have one.

[kendom]

Sure Frazier will a few good body shots in but for the most part once he gets inside the jab he is going to be engulfed immediately then muscled around the ring.

Frazier isn't going to get "muscled", he had the strength to deal with much larger opponents, the only one who physically dominated him is Foreman, who pushed cars uphill in his forties as roadwork. swarmers who fight with the intensity of Frazier are almost impossible to tie up, not to mention Wlad's inside game is virtually zero.

[The Surgeon]

I think Frazier puts it on em. He would be a far harder target than the vast majority of these talentless lumps who stand there with their heads up in the air begging to get KO'd, and even if Wlad could land his jab with any consistency Frazier wouldnt quit on himself like Wlads opponents tend to do.

I can see Joe slipping jabs with that bobbing defence and whaling away on a terrified looking Klitchko with left hooks to the body and eventually the head. Wlad melts under the Frazier pressure and at some point gets his ass knocked out.

Even if Wlad was winning the fight Frazier - who gets my vote as the toughest son to ever lace up the gloves, would make him work every second of every round and the mental and physical pressure would drain the big man's gas tank and then he'd crumble.

[The_Demon]

It can be when people like you try to construct an argument.

You're saying Haye went the distance with Wlad because of movement when in fact it was because he was running/not engaging. Then you said Frazier would beat Wlad because he would do what Haye did but even better. Haye fought absolutely nothing like Frazier, at all, unless you mean the occasional bob and weave. Very incorrect comparison either way.

Oh dear its like talking too a 6 year old

il simplify it for you,Fraziers bobbing weaving style would give Wlad hell consistently slipping under the jab and working the body and coming over the top with vicious hooks,and it would happen over and over again

Understand kid? Jesus i feel like a primary school teacher

[$tate of Mind]

Joe flattens Wlad with his famed left hook. If Joe knocked Ali down with that punch, he KO's Wlad with that punch.