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  • #71
    Originally posted by Rockin' View Post

    You do not take in to account that James could not move as a Heavyweight. Tell me what sport James was in that injured him.

    Idiot..................Rockin'
    this time Toney was even way more advanced than his 14th match I posted this was ton very early matches at LHW which was what Rock was, and still both these guys were way more advanced than the whole novice-like era,no match exist in rocks time were boxers this advanced
     

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    • #72
      Originally posted by Ascended

      this time Toney was even way more advanced than his 14th match I posted this was ton very early matches at LHW which was what Rock was, and still both these guys were way more advanced than the whole novice-like era

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      I actually agree that the James' era was more advanced.

      But when you put two fighters together to throw down and one is as strong as Marciano, sheet, anything can happen.

      Andy Ruiz, while I like the guy, was king of the Heavyweights for a day or two.

      Anything can happen.

      I don't believe that James fought anybody as strong as Marciano.



      ............Rockin'
      Last edited by Rockin'; 02-03-2024, 11:31 PM.

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      • #73
        Tell me what sport James was in that injured him.

        Idiot..................Rockin'

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        • #74
          Originally posted by Rockin' View Post

          I actually agree that the James' era was more advanced.

          But when you put two fighters together to throw down and one is as strong as Marciano, sheet, anything can happen.

          Andy Ruiz, while I like the guy, was king of the Heavyweights for a day or two.

          Anything can happen.

          I don't believe that James fought anybody as strong as Marciano.


          Off of the subject for a sec, what world champions/title challengers have you ever talked the sport with?

          ............Rockin'
          Anything can happen? So rock fighting like he did in his time can just come into the 90s that exact same way same mistakes and obsolete tech and rock being strong only can get him the win?,so no matter if he has hardly any angle use they did in 90s/bad defense/bad timing along with all the other missing tech shown in 90s in that match I shown with Toney,rock still can give a tough match?

          rock hit way harder?,what are you talking about along with as I proved way better tech tech in inself, allows punches in general to be way more effective,along with they had way better timing so you make no sense at all, like you’re not even going off of the real rock on video that’s obvious, because if you were you wouldn’t be saying any of that nonsense you would easily be Able to see he would stand no chance at all way to many holes in his tech and to many mistakes Toney would take advantage of
          Last edited by Ascended; 02-03-2024, 11:41 PM.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by Ascended View Post
            Anything can happen? So rock fighting like he did in his time can just come into the 90s that exact same way same mistakes and obsolete tech and rock being strong only can get him the win?,so no matter if he has hardly any angle use they did in 90s/bad defense/bad timing along with all he other missing tech shown in 90s in that match I shown with Toney,rock still can give a tough match?

            rock fought people who hit way harder what are you talking about along with as I proved way better tech tech in inself allows punches in general to be way more effective along with they had way better timing so you make no sense at all like you’re not even going off of the real rock on video that’s obvious cause if you were you wouldn’t be saying any of that nonsense you would easily be Able to see he would stand no chance at all way to many holes in his tech and to many mistakes Toney would take advantage of
            Daaaammmnnn!! Run on sentences much?

            I have never claimed that Rocky fought people who hit harder. Rocky was strong doe.

            James being a power puncher is a myth. James could just catch you when you weren't expecting it.

            And those are the ones that get you.

            While the Nunn KO was great, it was not about James' great power, it was about James finesse and timing.

            If Rocky had fought in the 80s/90's his style would reflect it.

            James was slick as funk and a damn good fighter, again show me where I ever stated that he wasn't?

            And again, you're dismissing his injury.
            ..............Rockin'
            Last edited by Rockin'; 02-03-2024, 11:56 PM.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by Rockin' View Post

              Daaaammmnnn!! Run on sentences much?


              If Rocky had fought in the 80s/90's his style would reflect it.

              James was slick as funk and a damn good fighter, again show me where I ever stated that he wasn't?

              You're dismissing his injury.
              ..............Rockin'
              Why does rock style need to change why can't he come in the exact same way on video?, isn't that the way this thread is implied?
              Last edited by Ascended; 02-03-2024, 11:51 PM.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by Ascended View Post

                Why does rock style need to change why can't he come in the exact same way on video?, isn't that the way this thread is implied?
                Even with the way that he fights on video, he is still dangerous.

                And what about James' injury?

                .................Rockin'

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by Rockin' View Post

                  Even with the way that he fights on video, he is still dangerous.

                  And what about James' injury?

                  .................Rockin'
                  Not dangerous vs a guy with tech of 90s which he never faced anyone that advanced, rock looks novice like can you not see that? can you not see the many mistakes? Compared?,I can post his match with jersey agian
                  Last edited by Ascended; 02-04-2024, 12:10 AM.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by Ascended View Post
                    Not dangerous vs a guy with tech of 90s which he never faced anyone that advanced, rock looks novice like can you not see that? can you not see the many mistakes? Compared
                    Oh no, I see it. But just one punch can do it.

                    As well, it would be like James fighting an unorthodox fighter, a strong guy who fights weird to the time period.

                    But you've never boxed anybody and could never understand it.

                    James was great in my eyes, I've taken plenty of sheet for saying that.

                    But it's just like another friend who fought for a world title. He stated that the champ was just too strong.

                    I see this being similar.

                    James would not be able to KO Marciano.

                    ....................Rockin'
                    Last edited by Rockin'; 02-04-2024, 12:21 AM.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by Rockin' View Post

                      Oh no, I see it. But just one punch can do it.

                      As well, it would be like James fighting an unorthodox fighter, a strong guy who fights weird to the time period.

                      But you've never boxed anybody and could never understand it.

                      James was great in my eyes, I've taken plenty of sheet for saying that.

                      But it's just like another friend who fought for a world title. He stated that the champ was just too strong.

                      I see this being similar.

                      James would not be able to KO Marciano.

                      ....................Rockin'
                      1 punch with horrible tech? Funny, rock wouldn't get anywhere fighting that horrible, he never even hit anyone 1 good time and they were out where did you get that from?

                      I don't have to ever have boxed if I understand tech and flaws of a older era which boxers who fought way more advanced people, are you slow?

                      If you see all the flaws and horrible tech it should be obvious then tone would stop him before he even can react, tone is way to advanced, rock even got dropped by jersey easy in the 1st, that was cause he stood there defense bad and slow reflexes
                      Last edited by Ascended; 02-04-2024, 12:31 AM.

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