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  • Originally posted by Ascended

    Dominated by Jones a way more advanced himself than the whole class of anybody who fought in that class in the rock era? Even as an amateur, You're point?, see how it doesn't make any sense saying that?, the same as it doesn't make any sense saying tone was beaten in his 14th match, when my topic is advances, that means before the match ends yet you lack sense and can't see good

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    What does that have to do with anything I said in the post you quoted?

    Yes I am very aware that Roy Jones is an extremely more advanced fighter than James Toney.
    Last edited by IronDanHamza; 02-05-2024, 10:01 PM.

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    • Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

      What does that have to do with anything I said in the post you quoted?

      Yes I am very aware that Roy Jones is an extremely more advanced fighter than James Toney.
      Dominated by Jones a way more advanced himself than the whole class of anybody who fought in that class in the rock era? Even as an amateur, You're point?, see how it doesn't make any sense saying that?, the same as it doesn't make any sense saying Tone was beaten in his 14th match when my topic is advanced, that means before the match ends yet you lack sense and can't see good
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      in you're mind a person doesn't show any advances unless they win, in you're mind when a match starts it just fast forwards to they are koed or they show the cards, this is how you seem like you operate to keep using that dumb comment of who won a match

      this is how you come off to me, nothing else happened before the ko or the cards were

      You can't see obsolete flaws and tech in the rock era, why?,I have no idea,you used flaws that tone had yet they were vs a way more advanced fighter,so I don't know why you named them

      those flaws
      he had wouldn't show up vs guys in the rock era cause he was as I showed in that match you said he lost as if it made sense to say, that ver of him was way more advanced than anybody In rocks era

      I posted prime rock vs Jersey and I can clearly see obsolete tech and lots of flaws, yet you can't for some odd reason, you can see tone 14th match and that guy didn't have the same flaws or obsolete tech compared, you're vision is horrible
      Last edited by Ascended; 02-05-2024, 11:42 PM.

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      • Originally posted by Ascended View Post

        Dominated by Jones a way more advanced himself than the whole class of anybody who fought in that class in the rock era? Even as an amateur, You're point?, see how it doesn't make any sense saying that?, the same as it doesn't make any sense saying Tone was beaten in his 14th match when my topic is advanced, that means before the match ends yet you lack sense and can't see good
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        in you're mind a person doesn't show any advances unless they win, in you're mind when a match starts it just fast forwards to they are koed or they show the cards, this is how you seem like you operate to keep using that dumb comment of who won a match

        this is how you come off to me, nothing else happened before the ko or the cards were

        You can't see obsolete flaws and tech in the rock era, why?,I have no idea,you used flaws that tone had yet they were vs a way more advanced fighter,so I don't know why you named them

        those flaws
        he had wouldn't show up vs guys in the rock era cause he was as I showed in that match you said he lost as if it made sense to say, that ver of him was way more advanced than anybody In rocks era

        I posted prime rock vs Jersey and I can clearly see obsolete tech and lots of flaws, yet you can't for some odd reason, you can see tone 14th match and that guy didn't have the same flaws or obsolete tech compared, you're vision is horrible
        Again, yes I am very aware that Roy Jones is an extremely more advanced fighter than James Toney. I don't know why you felt the need to repeat that.

        I have concurred with those flaws on the fighters you mentioned. But for some reason you're not understanding that James Toney carries a lot of the same flaws they do.

        You have this idea that he is some vastly skilled, master boxer, when frankly he's not.

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        • Originally posted by Ascended

          Show the match where toney had the same exact flaws and tech they had? From the rock era, I need that video

          I don't have any idea,I can see everything and in my vision yes he is a master boxer compared to those in the rock era
          Just go and watch the video you posted of him getting easily beaten in his prime by an unranked journeyman That is a fantastic example.

          Go and watch his fights with Sanderline Williams 1, Sosa, Dave Tiberi, Roy Jones, Reggie Johnson (especially the first 6 rounds), etc and you'll see quite the limited fighter that he is.

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          • Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

            Just go and watch the video you posted of him getting easily beaten in his prime by an unranked journeyman That is a fantastic example.

            Go and watch his fights with Sanderline Williams 1, Sosa, Dave Tiberi, Roy Jones, Reggie Johnson (especially the first 6 rounds), etc and you'll see quite the limited fighter that he is.
            Already seen that match and him and drake were way more advanced and didn't have the same flaws as rock and Jersey, you can't see good can you? Are you 50% blind?

            all those guys he fought I automatically know already they were way more advanced than the whole rock era
            Last edited by Ascended; 02-06-2024, 12:22 AM.

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            • Originally posted by Ascended View Post

              Already seen that match and him and drake were way more advanced and didn't have the same flaws as rock and Jersey, you can't see good can you? Are you 50% blind?

              all those guys he fought I automatically know already they were way more advanced than the whole rock era
              Ah yes, an unranked journeyman is more advanced than Jersey Joe Walcott
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              • Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

                Ah yes, an unranked journeyman is more advanced than Jersey Joe Walcott
                The video shows Drake was way more advanced no matter if he wasn’t ranked so don’t know why you keep saying that dumb comment, get you’re vision checked man, Jersey looks horrible compared, I won’t name all the obsolete tech and flaws again that era had, posted video proof showing it
                Youre vision is horrible and you're slow and not sane
                Last edited by Ascended; 02-06-2024, 12:47 AM.

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                • Originally posted by Ascended View Post

                  The video shows Drake was way more advanced no matter if he wasn’t ranked so don’t know why you keep saying that dumb comment, get you’re vision checked man, Jersey looks horrible compared, I won’t name all the obsolete tech and flaws again that era had, posted video proof showing it
                  Youre vision is horrible and you're slow and not sane
                  Your video of Drake Thadzi is an equivalent amount of "evidence".

                  You are entitled to your (warped) opinion that Drake Thadzi is a more advanced fighter than Jersey Joe Walcott.

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                  • Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

                    Your video of Drake Thadzi is an equivalent amount of "evidence".

                    You are entitled to your (warped) opinion that Drake Thadzi is a more advanced fighter than Jersey Joe Walcott.
                    Video proof in full matches showing angles/timing/more fluid/better defense/better tech is a opinion?,get you're vision checked lunatic, anybody with good vision can clearly see he was way less flawed and way more tech you're not sane at all you're an idiot

                    You don't know the difference between opinion and evidence,can’t see good/a liar and very slow and a idiot,these aren’t opinions either you show you are everything I call you
                    Last edited by Ascended; 02-06-2024, 01:06 AM.

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                    • Originally posted by Ascended View Post

                      Video proof in full matches showing angles/timing/more fluid/better defense/better tech is a opinion?,get you're vision checked lunatic, anybody with good vision can clearly see he was way less flawed and way more tech you're not sane at all you're an idiot

                      You don't know the difference between opinion and evidence,can’t see good/a liar and very slow and a idiot,these aren’t opinions either you show you are everything I call you
                      Your fallacy argument of “Anyone with vision can see it” doesn’t work here I’m afraid.

                      If your “evidence” is “look at the video” then yes that is nothing more than an opinion.

                      And your own “video evidence” disproves your own point by Toney getting easily beaten by a journeyman with little skill.

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