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  • Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

    Drake Thadzi is a bum and would be a bum in any era. Your great footage of him beating Toney with ease doesn't support your argument in any way.

    The rest of your cut and paste wall of text I have already addressed multiple times.

    The flaws you cite for them also apply to Toney, as previously explained.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPKFt4Y7UaQ&t=948s

    They don't fight from range much; they leave themselves open a lot.
    A lot of times, they will just throw themselves into the body and not protect themselves.

    They use mostly counters when up close; the lateral movement is very basic; they don't seem to be able to punch from range while doing it smoothly; they have to stop then punch most of the time; and their feet are mostly tiptoeing.

    And a lot of times they wait for the person to hit them, standing right in front of their opponent. They all had these or multiple of these flaws in this era, because it was all they knew it was the style. ​​"​

    They even a lot of times looked to seem like they getting ready to dodge as if a football player were ready to run and they looked off balance doing that the person usually didn't counter that they just got away with it, they did that cause they weren't always good at reading where the other person was moving to, on top of they had their hands low doing that

    LOOKS HORRIBLE LOOKS LIKE NOVICES COMPARED
     

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    • Originally posted by Ascended View Post

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPKFt4Y7UaQ&t=948s

      They don't fight from range much; they leave themselves open a lot.
      A lot of times, they will just throw themselves into the body and not protect themselves.

      They use mostly counters when up close; the lateral movement is very basic; they don't seem to be able to punch from range while doing it smoothly; they have to stop then punch most of the time; and their feet are mostly tiptoeing.

      And a lot of times they wait for the person to hit them, standing right in front of their opponent. They all had these or multiple of these flaws in this era, because it was all they knew it was the style. ​​"​

      They even a lot of times looked to seem like they getting ready to dodge as if a football player were ready to run and they looked off balance doing that the person usually didn't counter that they just got away with it, they did that cause they weren't always good at reading where the other person was moving to, on top of they had their hands low doing that

      LOOKS HORRIBLE LOOKS LIKE NOVICES COMPARED
      I don't know if you can understand or not that if you keep cutting and pasting the same response it has no difference than the last time it was responded to.

      I don't entirely disagree with your sentiments but why are you struggling to grasp that James Toney holds most of the same flaws?

      It's really just that simple.

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      • Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

        I don't know if you can understand or not that if you keep cutting and pasting the same response it has no difference than the last time it was responded to.

        I don't entirely disagree with your sentiments but why are you struggling to grasp that James Toney holds most of the same flaws?

        It's really just that simple.
        They don't fight from range much; they leave themselves open a lot.
        A lot of times, they will just throw themselves into the body and not protect themselves.

        They use mostly counters when up close; the lateral movement is very basic; they don't seem to be able to punch from range while doing it smoothly; they have to stop then punch most of the time; and their feet are mostly tiptoeing.

        And a lot of times they wait for the person to hit them, standing right in front of their opponent. They all had these or multiple of these flaws in this era, because it was all they knew it was the style. ​​"​

        They even a lot of times looked to seem like they getting ready to dodge as if a football player were ready to run and they looked off balance doing that the person usually didn't counter that they just got away with it

        Does the video have the same exact flaws and tech they used, yes or no? I need the match that shows he had the exact same flaws and technology they used back then.

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        • Originally posted by Ascended View Post

          They don't fight from range much; they leave themselves open a lot.
          A lot of times, they will just throw themselves into the body and not protect themselves.

          They use mostly counters when up close; the lateral movement is very basic; they don't seem to be able to punch from range while doing it smoothly; they have to stop then punch most of the time; and their feet are mostly tiptoeing.

          And a lot of times they wait for the person to hit them, standing right in front of their opponent. They all had these or multiple of these flaws in this era, because it was all they knew it was the style. ​​"​

          They even a lot of times looked to seem like they getting ready to dodge as if a football player were ready to run and they looked off balance doing that the person usually didn't counter that they just got away with it

          Does the video have the same exact flaws and tech they used, yes or no? I need the match that shows he had the exact same flaws and technology they used back then.
          Not exactly, no. But you'll never find two fighters with the exact same flaws.

          But does Toney have similar flaws? Yes.

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          • Originally posted by Ascended

            but it doesn't matter what flaws he has if they aren't all the same exact flaws and tech used, he fought in a way more advanced era. I showed that on video, every flaw I named and tech they used all show in the rock era every last match. It was how they fought back then. You can't find all those flaws and the same tech used in the Drake match; it doesn't exist. from either fighter so you lied


            See how you don't make any sense?, how can Rock have any chance if he isn't facing a guy with the same exact tech and flaws all guys in his era had?, he wouldn't have any chance because that guy isn't giving him multiple mistakes that he was used to fighting, but you for some reason can't see those advances toney had, yet people on yt can see every obsolete tech and flaw the rock era had in matches just like I can

            You say drake was a no name unskilled for his era correct, but very skilled compared to guys in the rock era but you can't see that either can you?, why oh because he isn't a big name? So name and status mean a person is more skilled yet no video shows that?


            Why can't I see the same obsolete tech and flaws used in every rock era fighter in drake? I'm not blind

            I don't even like drake fighting style Im going off of looking at all 4 fighters tech and flaws used in their era and comparing to each era
            You can.

            But you just see what you want to see for whatever reason.

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            • Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

              You can.

              But you just see what you want to see for whatever reason.
              but it doesn't matter what flaws he has if they aren't all the same exact flaws and tech used, tone he fought in a way more advanced era. I showed that on video, every flaw I named and tech they used all show in the rock era every last match. It was how they fought back then. You can't find all those flaws and the same tech used in the Drake match; it doesn't exist. from either fighter so you lied


              See how you don't make any sense?, how can Rock have any chance if he isn't facing a guy with the same exact tech and flaws all guys in his era had?, he wouldn't have any chance because that guy isn't giving him multiple mistakes that he was used to fighting, but you for some reason can't see those advances toney had, yet people on yt can see every obsolete tech and flaw the rock era had in matches just like I can​
              Last edited by Ascended; 02-06-2024, 02:24 PM.

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              • Originally posted by Ascended View Post

                but it doesn't matter what flaws he has if they aren't all the same exact flaws and tech used, tone he fought in a way more advanced era. I showed that on video, every flaw I named and tech they used all show in the rock era every last match. It was how they fought back then. You can't find all those flaws and the same tech used in the Drake match; it doesn't exist. from either fighter so you lied


                See how you don't make any sense?, how can Rock have any chance if he isn't facing a guy with the same exact tech and flaws all guys in his era had?, he wouldn't have any chance because that guy isn't giving him multiple mistakes that he was used to fighting, but you for some reason can't see those advances toney had, yet people on yt can see every obsolete tech and flaw the rock era had in matches just like I can​
                Sure you can.

                Like I said you just have an issue with seeing what you want to see.

                And like I also said you're entitled to your (warped) opinion.

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                • Originally posted by Ascended

                  So people on yr multiple just seeing what they wanna see?, so you not seeing Drake and Toney way less flawed and better tech are you doing the same isn't it you're vision is horrible like mine so-called is right?
                  If your position is Drake Thadzi is a more advanced and less flawed fighter than Jersey Joe Walcott then yes I think you'd be very seldom in holding that (warped) opinion.

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                  • Originally posted by Ascended

                    So people on yr multiple just seeing what they wanna see?, so you not seeing Drake and Toney way less flawed and better tech aren't you doing the same?
                    I've literally just answered that exact same question you dumb cunt.

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                    • Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

                      I've literally just answered that exact same question you dumb cunt.
                      So people on yr multiple just seeing what they wanna see?, so you not seeing Drake and Toney way less flawed and better tech aren't you doing the same?

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