RJJ vs Hagler

[joseph5620]

When fighters make their pro debut they are put in the ring with opponents of varying quality. Even if they can **** their is a good chance they might come up against an opponent durable enough to go the distance with them.

And now for the last time - I never said Mugabi's resume was impressive I said his KO record was impressive.


Mugabi would of koed all of those guys you mentioned, except maybe Johnson.
John David Jackson got koed by Castro he would fight a string of journeyman before getting dropped and losing a decision to Abdullah Rahaman who was a journeyman with a record of 9-6.

He would quit against Hopkins in a fight which was basically a mauling foul fest

Allen didnt achieve anything at mw or in any other division.

Echols quit against Hopkins in a fight which was a mauling foul fest. He wasnt punching back so the ref stopped it.

The Glen Johnson fight was stopped because of a bad cut

So of all the guys who named only one of them got koed by Hopkins (Allen) and he didnt do anything worth mentioning. GREAT

So in other words can't answer my question. Just like I thought Instead you come back with what you think Mugabi would have done. Sorry but I don't deal with Mugabi's fantasy career I deal with facts. Thanks for proving my point. Who did Mugabi KO better than John David Jackson, Antwon Echols, Robert Allen or Glen Johnson? If you can't answer(which you obviously can't)say so and kick rocks.



Like I said, if you come back here with a two page response to one post I won't waste my time reading it. Stop frontin with this biased BS and rewritten history. You aren't fooling anybody..

[jabsRstiff]

Toney....

Hopkins' fight with Johnson was not stopped due to a cut....it was stopped because Hopkins outclassed and battered him for 11 unbelievably one-sided rounds. The ref had finally seen enough....

Go watch the fight before making such a claim.

[SCtrojansbaby]

The crazy thing about the Hopkins vs Johnson fight is that 99.9 % of even the best boxers would of been stopped in the 2nd round if they took the punishment Johnson took

[gatorDelux]

bump...........

[Toney616]

[B][I]So in other words can't answer my question. Just like I thought Instead you come back with what you think Mugabi would have done. Sorry but I don't deal with Mugabi's fantasy career I deal with facts.

Mugabi:
my thread:
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=504021

Scott pointed out that Mugabi never beat a top contender. I NEVER disagreed with him. So why on earth are you constantly talking about Mugabi for?

I agree. Mugabi never beat a top contender. His entire reputation came from losing to a fading Hagler.

I think his reputation came from being 25-0 w/ 25 KOs when he fought Hagler.

Insane stats

I stated his ko ratio was insane. It's not the same thing as saying his resume is great.

Did Hagler duck MCallum?

No more than when you implied Hagler ducked Mike McCallum

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10574601#post10574601

My post from that thread:

All fighters at some point need another fighter to give them a shot to move their career to the next level. Hagler got his when Hearns, Duran and Leonard agreed to fight him. Them agreeing to fight him gave him the purses his wanted. McCallum wanted Hagler to give him the shot that Hearns and Duran had given him, the chance to make big money. Its not about ducking abut more about giving another fighter the shot you yourself was given by other fighters.

So again I dont know what you are going on about

Ali-Norton:

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10203546#post10203546

or that Ali was clearly beaten in the second Norton fight.You sound like a rejected old woman when discussing his career.

My post

I had Norton clearly winning the first fight
I had Ali winning most of the first half of the second fight with Norton coming on strong and dominating the last half

I have never tried to put down Ali's resume. Disagreeing with the scoring of a fight and putting down a fighters resume is not the same thing.

I have critisized Ali the Man, which is not the same thing as critisizing Ali's resume. If you support Ali preaching at KKK conventions then that says a lot about you. Ali was a black separatist, he was against the whole civil rights movement. Its the reason the Nation of Islam would form a pact with the KKK to derail it. If you read Muhammad Ali in fighters Heaven, page 40 he states that Martin Luther kings death was a good thing.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Muhammad-Fighters-Heaven-Victor-Bockris/dp/0099410842

[Toney616]

And you keep me on ignore because you don't like be called out on your bull****tt. That's called a coward.

You obviously have some kind of reading problem and I have better things to do with my time than to argue with you. Nothing you have stated relates to this thread in anyway. And this goes back to my earlier post you constantly go waaay off topic and twist my words.

Think I-G-N-O-R-E

[joseph5620]

Mugabi:
my thread:
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=504021

Scott pointed out that Mugabi never beat a top contender. I NEVER disagreed with him. So why on earth are you constantly talking about Mugabi for?






I stated his ko ratio was insane. It's not the same thing as saying his resume is great.

Did Hagler duck MCallum?

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10574601#post10574601

My post from that thread:

So again I dont know what you are going on about

Ali-Norton:

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10203546#post10203546

My post

I have never tried to put down Ali's resume. Disagreeing with the scoring of a fight and putting down a fighters resume is not the same thing.

I have critisized Ali the Man, which is not the same thing as critisizing Ali's resume. If you support Ali preaching at KKK conventions then that says a lot about you. Ali was a black separatist, he was against the whole civil rights movement. Its the reason the Nation of Islam would form a pact with the KKK to derail it. If you read Muhammad Ali in fighters Heaven, page 40 he states that Martin Luther kings death was a good thing.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Muhammad-Fig.../dp/0099410842

These are your words(another lie) from the thread in the link you posted. I couldnt post the original because you put me on ignore

Finally got around to watching this trilogy, I had Norton clearly winning all three fights. Do people here think Ali deserved to get the nod in any of these fights?





As I said, the reason you out me on ignore is because you're a coward who doesn't like to be called out on your BS. You straight up lie about fighters when you don't like them personally. "Hopkins only stopped Glen Johnson because of a cut". LOL.

And I couldn't care less about Ali or any other fighters personal life. You seem to be the only person here worried about that. So actually that says a lot about you. Too much time on your hands. You need a hobby or a girl.

[Toney616]

Toney....

Hopkins' fight with Johnson was not stopped due to a cut....it was stopped because Hopkins outclassed and battered him for 11 unbelievably one-sided rounds. The ref had finally seen enough.....

I watched the fight a while back. I remember Johnson taking a beatdown and having a bad cut over his left eye. Either way my mistake.

Go watch the fight before making such a claim

Its really not that big a deal. My point was it was a tko win, not a ko win